As a dude, being obsessed with war is weird.
As a kid, being indoctrinated early on by fairy tales with knights, then watching action films later on, I kind of understand, since you only know about the romanticised side.
As an adult, by the time you’re supposed to understand the endless pain, suffering, atrocities, needless death of millions (even one single person), the barbarity of trying to resolve conflicts with violence, the immense sadness and sacrifice that comes with war… putting it lightly, I don’t get war lovers.
But fuck me, I fucking LOVE to learn about the technological advancements, smart solutions, brilliant engineering (hey, even strategies) that came with those, from the first stone tools to holographic sights and radar camouflaging. On one hand, it’s rather sad that we could only develop technologies due to threatening violence or trying to crush others. On the other hand, without wars, we would probably still be amputating limbs due to infections we can either prevent or treat now (thanks to field medicine development), and a civilisation that doesn’t develop its own weapons (since why would they, they are peaceful) won’t have fun when running into one that isn’t as friendly.
(And for that reason, YT already thinks I’m a WW2 nerd)
Mm, I’d dispute that we developed technology only as a result of war. Humans are naturally curious. We would develop technology no matter what
But it is true that the trajectory would be different, and there’s be differences in investment levels as well, but that’s more of a symptom of what our societies value
I think there are some ways that are defendable (like those obsessed with WW2 only because they don’t want it to happen here, like Robert Evans of Cool Zone Media), but I can’t think of a war I was obsessed with… maybe if you include Star Wars? I was a huge fan as a child and I do consider myself still a fan now, though I’ve grown to know what I like about it is just a standard hero saves the day against stronger enemy fantasy. The people who like and defend the empire has always worried me. Felt pretty fascist apologetic.
I think it often has to do with the kind of bonding between men during war, and guys being drawn to that more than the war itself.
“I’m just here to make friends!”
Class war
Based
That’s what I was assigned
…that kind of encompasses all of them, and more.
Goes well beyond those, tho
The Long War
it’s part of a setting that I’m worldbuilding. I keep lying to myself and saying that one day I’ll actually write the book. Think star wars, but with a pinch more cyberpunk, an entire shaker of grimdark, a not insignificant amount of nsfw content.
It’s my life’s work, and I’ve got jack shit to show for it.
XCOM 2: War of the Chosen
Ugh, I got culture war. It’s the worst.
The age range here makes no sense.
I think it’s history in general, not so much a particular war, no?
It’s a little of both. Humanity is kind of obsessed with Wars in general, and a lot of our history is written to reflect that. So you almost can’t have one without the other.
I got star wars (the Mayan kind not the movies)
Console war
Today I learned I’m not a man.
Good on you, sis!
::: spoiler
J/k
Most of the guys i know seem to have gotten Star Wars.
Clone war? Sweet!
Emu war
A decisive victory for the dinosaurs, if memory serves
Australians demonstrating their abilty to be incredibly unreasonable in fighting them, but also incredibly reasonable in giving up.
The Cod Wars.
Lucky. I got the Turbot War
In case anyone thought that it was made-up
The Baked Bean War.
I was there, and I remember.
Whale wars
The Falklands war is me 🤐
Dude, same. Surprised it even got a mention.
Why do you think Argentina decided to try to take the islands? It’s not like they were historically Argentine, right?
It has something to do with some popular Argentinian cowboy that was governor of the Falklands for a while a long time ago
What the people that actually live in the Falklands want is obviously ignored by the “historical sentiment is more important than what living people want” crowd.
He was Spanish. Argentina didn’t even exist then.
Navy seal copypasta style
What the fuck did you just fucking say about Argentina’s claim to the Falklands, you little shit? I’ll have you know sovereignty passed from Spain to Argentina at independence in 1816 under uti possidetis juris, and Argentina formally claimed the islands in 1820, followed by confirmation and effective occupation from 1826 to 1833. You are nothing to me but another loudmouth denying that history. I will wipe out your arguments with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can toss around “self-determination” like it overrides territorial integrity? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am lining up decades of Argentine protests — 1833, 1841, 1849, 1884, 1888, 1908, 1927, 1933, 1946 and every UN complaint thereafter — and your weak rebuttals are being traced and exposed, so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that buries the myth that British de facto rule since 1833 was anything but an illegal act of force. You’re intellectually dead, kid. I can be anywhere in the argument, anytime, and I can dismantle your “transplanted population” claim in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just by citing principle: the islanders are a transplanted population of British character and nationality, not a separate people under external self-determination doctrine, and thus that doctrine does not apply here. Not only am I extensively trained in international law rhetoric, but I have access to the entire arsenal of historical facts — uti possidetis, effective occupation, the continental-shelf argument from the 1958 Convention — and I will use them to their full extent to wipe your miserable case off the face of the debate, you little bitch. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” dismissal of Argentina’s legal and historical claims was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over your shaky precedent and you will drown in it. You’re fucking argued out, kiddo.
Jokes aside, Argentina has had a claim on it for ages and we’re slowly gaining influence for a long time until they decided to invade and actually take it. They though the Brits wouldn’t care about a rock on the other side of the world but turns out Thatcher needed a win and got everyone riled up.
Nobody cared until Argentina invaded but now majority of the population is British military and British workers that support the military and whatnot. It was won with British blood that’s still in living memory so no way people are giving it up to Argentina.
If Argentina would have just slowly settled the island, support it, have the government do a referendum about unifying with Argentina it would have probably worked but instead they just have the claim.
Ironically I think the British could have been persuaded to hand it over to Argentina at some point. Kinda like with Hong Kong (although part of that was under a 99 year lease, but notably that wasn’t the whole territory either. Also I think the British could have just told them they weren’t the Qing dynasty if they really wanted to keep it)
I mean it was literally what was happening. The military dictatorship acted like a bunch of fucking idiots and fucked it up completely.
The Falklands are British. 1) Argentina lost them in the most recent war 2) The people living there and ant to be British because at the moment, Argentina sucks.
One of the funniest things about the referendum is that the 3 who voted against British rule didn’t necessarily want Argentinian rule- they could have wanted independence.
Have some class man. You destroyed their national identity, they can’t stop obsessing over that shit, you don’t need to rub salt in the wound.
War? Haven’t seen one in years … Oh that? Special military operation… This one? That’s a “conflict” but I can see your mistake.
Genocide? Sorry not familiar with that word
Yeah. The Falklands War was referred to as a conflict in the UK.
<sigh> I miss þe good old “police action.” Especially when it was overseas, unlike now.
