I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.
Nintendo shot themselves in the foot by aggressively going after the modding and archival communities.
They will never get another cent of my money and I own over a dozen Nintendo consoles.
I own or owned every one of their consoles other than the Wii (though can play the games on the wii u). No more, between their pricing (especially on recycled content), wastefullness (all that excess plastic for a case that holds a tiny cart because a small box makes their prices even harder to stomach), and legal bs (going after modders, emulators, and the used game market via anti-piracy bricking depending on what the previous owner of the game did), fuck them.
Three reasons: 1) It’s too bloody expensive. 2) Most people are scared to spend money right now. 3) The USA as a global superpower, is morphing into something decidedly more sinister.
We’ve never been great. It’s just removing the veneer of respectability we gave ourselves and doubling down on the shittiest parts.
- The USA as a global superpower, is morphing into something decidedly more sinister.
Nintendo is a Japanese company…
That sells to the USA…
Which means exactly what?
Nothing counts, unless it sells, I guess.
…with a big customer pool in North America.
Which means exactly what?
Personally, I prefer not to be Nintendo because of Nintendo’s behavior, but the price is why they still struggle to sell these.
They sold a ton right out of the gate. Everyone that really wanted one already got one. After that, they need parents and grandparents to get them for the kids and that isn’t going to happen as much.
Nintendo was basically a “toy”. You could, for the most part, safely buy a Nintendo console for your kids at a somewhat reasonable price. (I know the OG consoles were a bit pricey).
You could buy your kid a handheld console for ~$200 or less. The Switch 1 was $300, but you could still get your kid a Lite for $200.
Now, the only option is a $450 Switch 2.
Switch 2 desperately needs a TV-only version. I imagine the manufacturing cost would be drastically lower.
No dock, no joycons, no battery, no LCD.
Just a console, power supply, controller and HDMI cord.
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Fuck Nintendo
I was a Nintendo kid growing up, so I’m biased. But I can’t even defend them anymore. Their uncompetitive prices and anti-consumer practices are completely out-of-touch. I hope they either start listening to their fans, or go away and allow their games to be sold on other platforms…
what does the switch 2 do that the first one doesn’t? other than have the ability to brick the device on you
Better performance and new exclusives.
I’m waiting until they get cheap on the second-hand markets before even considering buying one.
Better performance, mainly because the first one performed horribly.
And mouse controls which seemed like a useless feature, but proved to be a really awesome one!
I bought the Switch 1 on launch and loved it, it was everything I was looking for on a console. However, every single joystick broke. I bought several joy con packs and they all drift heavily. Even the pro controller drifts. Nintendo Iberia refused to even repair them. They gave me the option to either replace them with a 20 euro discount or pay 20 euros for them to ship them back.
Awful product quality, awful support, zero accountability. Guess what, I’m spending my money elsewhere.
Doesn’t the new switch still use a control stick design that can suffer from drift, despite it being a solved problem?
looks it up Ah ffs, they probably didn’t because they thought replacing the mounting rack and slide with magnets was more important, and powerful magnets might interfere with the other sensors (though if the magnetic field isn’t moving, I think any effects could be compensated for).
They don’t want the controllers to have hall effect joysticks because they would out last the console, and they wouldn’t be able to sell replacements. Its not a cost issue in my opinion, the controllers are already in the high end price range.
You can test your theory though, you can replace switch joysticks with hall effect sticks. I found multiple sellers in a web search but haven’t used them myself.
I would be okay with defective controllers if Nintendo bothered to fix them. Through the entire lifespan of the console they sold controllers that would eventually drift. I own 3 pair of joy cons, they all drift. When sent for repair they were all deemed unrepairable, even those under warranty. That’s inexcusable.
In the new iteration of joycons they STILL don’t use TMR or hall effect sticks.
I don’t want to support this company.
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I bought a Switch day 1, I bought a Switch Lite day 1, there are 2 other Switches in our family… there’s no way in hell I’m ever getting a Switch 2 or any other product Nintendo makes.
I’m not really surprised. I kind of saw this coming with the price and how the sales started dropping after the launch.
I was talking to a friend about it and i just got brushed off by him saying “The numbers are too large too mean anything”. It’s crazy how people like him just buried their heads in the sand
Meh, I’ll wait for the emulator. At this point, I mostly emulate the Switch games I own on my PC because it’s more convenient to have all my games in one place without bothering with cartridges and yet another machine. Switch pro controllers are also overpriced, so I’d rather use my existing XBox controllers, but that requires a dongle for every controller and the Switch dock doesn’t have many USB ports. The 8bitdo dongles also only work half the time and are frustrating to use. Then there are the mods. Emulation is just a better experience, and Nintendo’s lawyers have been real assholes about it. Which is why my 20+ Switch games are the last things I’ll ever buy from Nintendo.
I don’t know if I’ll ever get one, and I play my Switch fairly regularly.
It is SO MUCH more expensive than anything undecided to play in my PC. And the exclusives aren’t very compelling lately.
When can we own it ourself and mod it?
The first Switch had a unique form factor when it came out, now there are deck pcs that replicate it, even with detachable “joycons”. Unless you want to play a handful of exclusive titles there is really no reason to buy it, especially since the old switch will now drop in price.
I haven’t bought it because the games I would’ve wanted to play on the Switch - still would work fine on the Switch. I don’t feel the need or see the need to jump to Switch 2. I haven’t even gotten a Switch for myself yet but I want one someday for Super Mario RPG.
Nintendo is just, fucking backwards in how they do business these days.
I got mine for 99 DKK including Mariokart because the shop selling it fucked up their discount. Best value I’ve ever gotten. XD
I got one for free because someone at an Amazon fulfillment center was off their game. Ordered some storage containers; one of them had Switch 2 in it. If Duskbloods wasn’t going to be an exclusive to the system, I wouldn’t have even kept it.
I’m keeping it around because at some point in the future the Switch 2 will get hacked, and boy am I going to have some sailing to do.
