Congratulations no-voters. You brought Israel to America.
You can’t enable atrocities abroad without them coming home to roost. Congrats to all US voters of the last 250 years.
I think it’s about time the press and protesters start showing up strapped. These people clearly don’t have any fear and are just power tripping on people for simply being there. Put the fear of God back into these pigs.
The people of sh.it.just.works and Lemmy.world both loved to try and act like I was out of line for calling for open carry the other night. Unfortunately California state law doesn’t allow for it. I think that it’s the only way to get them to back off with the Marines, the National Guard and with ICE though. If they’re not going to be afraid of us then they’re never going to change and the people saying “don’t give them a reason to escalate” will keep saying that up to the first battles at which point they’ll run and cower.
Fun fact, the real wave of gun restrictions started with the Black Panthers open carrying in California back in in the 60s.
https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act
That led to the Mulford Act:
The state law made by fucking Reagan and should thusly be ignored.
Completely agree. We should have gotten rid of the law. It was born out of racism and restricts our rights in Cali.
Escalation to violence is exactly what they want. It gives them all the justification they need to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law and suspend your Constitutional rights. And not just in California.
Protesters urged not to give trump administration pretext for what it is already doing
edit: Oh, what the hell. Let’s add a snippet.
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass publicly urged protesters Monday not to give the Trump administration any pretext for what they’re already doing and will keep doing no matter what. “Angelenos—don’t engage in violence and give the administration an excuse to inflict all the damage they have been inflicting carte blanche for months on end,” said Bass, adding that Trump and his team are just looking for a reason to respond with violence, as they would have done whether or not any of this happened.
That’s an Onion article. You can tell because Trump hasn’t been shooting protesters for months already. That’s what comes next. And that’s when it stops being a protest, and turns into a civil war.
Don’t be so eager to make that happen.
It’s looking pretty inevitable at this point.
Only if people go into this looking for it.
Why would I reject the good timeline where the fascist superpower has a civil war instead of destroying the world?
If you’ve already decided that you want a civil war, then Trump doesn’t need to find an excuse. You’re going to force his hand. And any possibility that those soldiers might be on your side, disappears.
So what? Do you just watch until you’re being herded into concentration camps anyway? This is the first instance of effective resistance to Trump (the April parades don’t count) since January and they’re calling in the Marines already. This was simply never going to end peacefully, because any effective act of mass resistance was going to be suppressed violently; avoiding escalation means avoiding resistance.
Resistance doesn’t have to include escalation. Leave that to them…they are going to escalate anyway. If the protesters are the ones doing it, then they just handed Trump exactly what he wants…a legal justification for his actions.
Where does the goal post moving stop? It’s not an escalation of violence if you don’t use it. It’s a threat to escalate to violence. If they aren’t afraid of you then they’re not going to change.
When they declare martial law are you going to be saying the same thing and hoping by just chanting loudly you change their mind?
I didn’t say start blasting. Right wingers show up strapped all the time showing they mean business and are given plenty of space as a consequence. The cops can do the same for other Americans. If they can’t then it shows the public that it was never about individual rights and all about allowing one group they favor to get away with it.
You’re not wrong bit you’re on the wrong instance if your solution isn’t just ‘hold hands and vote for black trump with a d next to their name next election’.
Not helpful
Uncomfortable truth: violence has solved some of the largest issues across the history of humanity.
yeah its also created some of the biggest problems
all wars, all genocides ect, that’s pretty bad stuff
Violence didn’t create war or genocide, those are a result of nationalism and racism, respectively. Violence is the means used to accomplish the goal, but the motivation is what does the creating.
To be clear I’m not pro-violence or something, but it is kinda funny to me when you hear “violence is the answer” and open a history book to see time and time again that violence is the answer for quite a few problems.
Your apathy is even less helpful.
Get out there and shoot then
I’d prefer to not give Trump a reason to use the Insurrection Act.
I’m not pro-starting-the-shooting either but let’s be real, he will find an excuse to use it whether people fight back or not.
We can stop pretending he has any restraint we aren’t even six months in.
They made up a reason to deploy marines in LA. They’ll make up a reason to do that too. Violence is inevitable at this point. Resist anyway.
The majority of the protest is non-violent. What is being shown in photos is isolated incidents.
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Sure thing tough guy
At least I’m not loving it, maga.
I’m not a magat. I just don’t want this to turn out exactly like Trump wants it to. He wants people to start shooting.
Keep acting like you’re gonna start shooting cops the first chance you get. We all know you’re not.
Tell me how every dictatorship has been overthrown. I’ll give you a hint: those that chastize calls for retaliation tend to be labeled “fascist sympathizers” by history.
Reporter Ruben Salazar March 3, 1928 – August 29, 1970. Murdered by the LASD.
During the march, Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy Thomas Wilson struck and immediately killed Salazar with a tear-gas projectile. No criminal charge was filed, but Salazar’s family reached an out-of-court financial settlement with the county.
Classic USA
Sounds Israel and Russia. Trump has been studying hard and taking out the journos is the first step.
Trump hasn’t studied shit. His enablers and handlers have, though.
Exactly. You’re out of your mind if you think taco is sitting at a desk writing executive orders before signing them. The fucking project 2025 people he has in the white house are doing exactly what they’ve been saying they’ll do. Taco just rubber stamps it and blathers on social media.
“ALCARAZ”?
What is Alcaraz?
