Democratic Minnesota politician fatally shot, another injured in 'politically motivated assassination'
www.nbcnews.com
The assailant, who is still at large, was identified as 57-year-old Vance Boelter by the state's public safety commissioner.
  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
    2·
    7 hours ago

    Assassination. Terrorism.

    That’s what trump and his sycophants would call it. That’s what the news would report them saying. But if a democrat gets shot it’s “political violence.”

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
    59·
    18 hours ago

    How is this not bigger news?

    FWIW I just logged on and the first thing I saw was this story on German TV (edit: twice).

    And if anybody has doubts about the political motivation:

    Officials said they located the suspect’s vehicle, which had lights and sirens as if it were a police squad car, and found a “manifesto” inside with the names of other lawmakers and officials.

  • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    38·
    17 hours ago

    This is the problem with police raids, no-knock warrants, etc. where the occupants of the home can be charged with crimes for shooting at the police. They have absolutely no idea if the people busting down the door at 3AM are actual police, enemies such as rival gang members, or local criminals. But they basically have to make a choice between, as the saying goes, being judged by 12 or carried by six.

    All this leads to is unnecessary shootings and deaths, but the cops don’t care because they get to dress up like they’re playing a live action game of COD, arming themselves to the teeth, and driving military vehicles down the road while they gleefully anticipate how many brown people they get to shoot today, when the target is most often some low-level street dealer. And that’s assuming they even have the right person or address. They got the wrong guy or the wrong house? Too bad, so sad, sucks to be you because they’re immune. They still get to kill you, claim that it was in the heat of the moment, and the worst that will happen is that they’re put on paid leave, while you can still be charged with murder of a police officer if you happen to kill one of them in the process.

    This is the next logical step in the process. It wasn’t going to take long before people started figuring out that as long as you dress up like the cops, you can easily get the jump on people who may be hesitant to fight or shoot back out of fear of criminal charges, knowing that by the time anyone realizes what’s going on (assuming they survive that long), it’s too late to matter.

    I know that it’ll never, ever, ever happen in Trump’s dictatorship, but this is why police raids, no-knock warrants, civil forfeiture, etc. all need to be done away with. Police or no, if someone physically enters your home without permission, citizens should absolutely have the right to defend themselves. The police should not be allowed to enter a home until after they have repeatedly identified themselves from outside the home and given the suspect a chance to come out. I don’t care what kind of warrant they have. So what if they barricade themselves inside the house? Wait. They’ll run out of food eventually. And probably sooner rather than later.

    • overthere@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      271·
      17 hours ago

      The present day justification for no-knock raids isn’t even people barricading themselves inside, but worry about people destroying evidence of low level drug crimes.

      As if the increased risk to everybody’s life is worth it to make sure that the state’s case against someone isn’t made harder by somebody flushing a baggie of drugs.

      • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        18·
        16 hours ago

        And this is logic that I have never, ever, ever understood.

        If the only potential evidence that you have is that baggie of drugs that they could flush down the toilet, then you don’t have the evidence to support a full-on, no-knock raid of the guy’s house in the first place. You don’t need a dozen federal agents armed for war showing up in armored vans to arrest some dude selling a bit of weed to high school kids. If him flushing some drugs down the toilet would torpedo your case, you didn’t have a case to begin with. At the very least, certainly not a case that justifies bringing in the entire COD Squad to arrest him.

        If you do have the evidence that the suspect is some high-end cartel member or something and the only safe way to arrest him is a raid, then the baggies of drugs that get flushed down the toilet are superfluous; even if he successfully flushes everything in the house down the toilet, the rest of the evidence that you used to justify the warrant in the first place should be enough to secure a conviction anyway.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    44·
    18 hours ago

    (The answer is it just broke and there are a lot of newsworthy things happening today)

    It was an almost inevitable succession to robbers cosplaying as ICE. If one is deemed normal, then extrajudicial killings where in the moment you believe it’s illegal to defend yourself will be normalized too. If this is allowed to stand, or your president would pardon this kind of violence, your country is lost.

    • aesthelete@lemmy.world
      44·
      18 hours ago

      We’re having a Kim Jong-Un style military parade today, dude. America let Trump grab it by the pussy.

      • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
        17·
        17 hours ago

        I’ll be out there today in solidarity with your democracy. The people are the last bastion of resistance to fascism.

        • aesthelete@lemmy.world
          12·
          17 hours ago

          I appreciate the sentiment, but you’d be acting more wisely by working simultaneously to oppose the rise of fascism in your own country.

          Show solidarity, sure, but use your rallies to build coalitions to allow you to organize against the budding problems with Trump-style politicians in Canada. It was only by the disgrace of Trump’s overreach that you didn’t wind up with a PM that was much like him.

          • Tryenjer@lemmy.world
            13·
            17 hours ago

            In my country in Europe, the news didn’t even give any context as to why it happened. They said that the robbers disguised themselves as police officers, and they didn’t even mention ICE and the fact that the current administration allows this force to arrest people without a warrant and without wearing a badge proving that they are indeed police. Hell, they can even walk around with their faces covered, for God’s sake.

            I’m really surprised that a case of impostors like this is only being reported now, so late. There have probably been many other situations, but they went unnoticed by the media.

            • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
              6·
              15 hours ago

              American living in Germany here. I’m shocked how often everyone is asking me about why there are “riots” in LA and they know nothing about the ICE raids and lack of due process for ommigrants.

              My only reasoning is news organizations are doing this on purpose but I can’t understand why

  • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
    501·
    18 hours ago

    Seeing the headline, for a minute I had hoped that the resistance had finally woken up, but no- just another victory for the Nazis. Not sure why I expected any different.

  • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    16 hours ago

    “Such horrific violence will not be tolerated in the United States of America.”

    “…well… Let me get back to you on that one actually”

    • Lasherz@lemmy.worldM
      6·
      16 hours ago

      Coupled with a longer statement about how Democrats have views that for some people necessitate their murders and so we need to ratchet down the murders but also the rhetoric about Trans people being humans, etc.