I get that it’s annoying, but reddit deserves to burn.
Reddit as a company is 100% unaffected by this
To an extent they are. Part of the appeal of Reddit was that you could find good answers there. But yeah, the idea that “long term their reputation may suffer” is hardly affecting them in any demonstrable way now.
100% unaffected? It makes their data worth a lot less for AI training. Even if they keep comment history, these are edits - how do you determine which edit to use? Using all of them poisons the data, and picking one risks doing the same.
On top of that, reddit has quickly become a non-source for opinions… I used to append “reddit” to any search where I wanted candid feedback, but absolutely would never do that these days. That’s less traffic, which is less ad money, which comprises the vast majority of their revenue. Reputation is virtually the only thing that matters for search, and Reddit’s reputation has been sliding for years.
People paying reddit aren’t training their models by scraping the web ui.
The original comments are still in the database, which is what you’d pipe into an LLM.
That’s less traffic, which is less ad money, which comprises the vast majority of their revenue.
and how many people do the same thing you do? they don’t really care about 1% of dedicated users…
…you’re joking, right? There is not a company in the world that is happy to ignore 1/100th of their revenue disappearing.
Is it going to kill reddit? Of course not. Are they “100% unaffected?” Of course not.
There is not a company in the world that is happy to ignore 1/100th of their revenue disappearing
except we are talking about USERS disappearing, not revenue. it is likely that revenue actually increased, because x+n (where n > 0) people paying more than zero generating more than zero is bigger number than x generating zero.
Reddit’s primary source of revenue is ads, that is a simple fact. What metrics do you think matter when it comes to ad revenue?
and how many ads do you think all these now gone power users were displaying and consuming? 😂
the more technical helpful users are likely to do it, you think the vast majority of users give helpful comments?
you are forgetting that reddit is not just coders and sysadmins.
people writing comments about - i don’t know - sneakers, might not care about the reddit drama at all. and all comments are helpful as AI training material - don’t succumb to the biased idea that only what interests you is important or “helpful”
Sure, but the users are.
Fuck Spez!
Good! The users add all the value to that site, moderate if for free and they couldn’t even not be cunts about it.
they want propaganda bots mostly now on reddit.
Good for whom?
There’s been loads of times where I’ve looked everywhere for a solution, finally finding it on google page 10+ in an obscure reddit thread with like 10 votes and 4 comments where someone had found a weird, illogical solution to your exact problem, that actually worked.
It’s a shame it went to shit. The real losers are us, we lost a lot of knowledge.
That doesn’t mean I think they should get to keep that stuff. Sure, we lost a lot of knowledge there, and that sucks. But the company lost out and pushed their IPO way back for it and I enjoy seeing Spez suffer after what he did to Aaron’s legacy.
If that’s how you feel, that’s how you feel. But I personally doubt Reddit as a company have lost out. They still have all the data. And they still have a massive user-base. I’m sure Spez is suffering real bad with his hundreds of millions…
I feel like they lost prestige more broadly but I’m obviously bias being here on Lemmy. We see I guess, I predict them tanking after their IPO.
It’s annoying, but it had to be done.
Awesome!!! Post your questions here instead
What kind of a boy is spez?
The fascist kind. A lot of high karma accounts got banned for no reason this last year. Destroying their own creation. Sad.
Cool it with the antifa remarks.
The anti fascist remarks?
Do you have a problem with anti fascists?
its a meme, bro get a grip
Learn to communicate please
Anything for you baby
A reliable source tells me Spez likes to diddle kids and has a micropenis.
Psst hey kid he’s also a lil piss boy.
A greedy little piggy boy
Why? so it can be found in search engines when people are looking for answers? Sadly, Lemmy is terrible for searching for answers. Lemmy will likely never replace the true benefits of reddit, search engine indexing for solutions.
Who cares about the search engines? Ask your questions here and get an answer. It just takes longer
Have you ever been on a forum? Like even once? Sort by New and you’ll find dozens of posts where the thread is shitting all over someone for asking something that has already been asked before.
We are in a forum right now dude lol.
But yeah I know how it can be you just need to find a friendly place. Like here!!
I really need to go back and delete all my posts, I just dropped it and never went back.
It’s a pain in the ass to do it manually. I used this script and it helped a lot.
just say something that will you get you banned and they will delete all your comments and posts and your profile. they will appear as
[deleted]. much easier tbhthey will appear as deleted, but they are not really deleted, they still have them in the database and still make money selling them 🤷♂️
would redact solve this?
make sense if reddit is a AI whore, and wants the money, what better way to have extra content from delete comments.
I had to manually delete my account when I got banned
I do wonder how much they soft delete stuff, so they can keep the data to sell. Also if they keto a history, do even if you manually delete/edit, do they have a copy on a server somewhere?
Not sure about edits, but its highly likely they still have every deleted post. Text is small and highly compressible, so there’s no reason to delete it. So it makes more sense to keep it to sell later.
Does that help the fight? I was under the impression that they got to keep all the old info
They do, but it makes the site less useable for people, which is a win
its pretty hostile to new users, since it sees a new acc as potential spam. reddits goal is to become like FB, just run by bots, but importantly propaganda bots, so less effor to deal with users.
What I did was mass edit all my comments. According to reddit customer support (about a year ago at the time), they do not retain old versions of edited comments.
I used Redact a while back. Super easy. First replaced everything with filler text, then deleted. Just in case mods have auto-rollback for deletion.
You‘re harming people looking for help and support more than you harm Reddit.
And Reddit took people’s goodwill to give free advice their and generate revenue from it for granted.
Reddit already only allows Google to scrape them now, so as far as I am concerned it is a dead site. Removing my comments is worth it to not feed the monopoly that is Google.
50% of the site is basically bots/propaganda bots. people dont realize they are responding to bots most of the time.
Which harms Reddit more than anything, as people will look elsewhere.
They just added comment history hiding as well, so now you can’t even tell if some people are engaging in good faith anymore.
So I get banned for reporting trolls because it’s an “Abuse of the Report Button” AND they make it easier to Troll? Do they just want people not using the site?
@QueenHawlSera @nightlily pretty sure that you just have to consider reddit as having been very much broken for a number of years now.
They erroneously ban good users and encourage the trolls.
The only way the experience is bearable is just to block idiots yourself and not engage.I couldn’t even get them to respond to appeals, so I just deleted the fucking account
I was a paying user who accidentally used an alt account a day before a ban was up.
The ban was ridiculous and unjustified but I understand alt accounts are against the rules. My appeal was rejected.
It was stupid if me to pay in the first place. My profile was linked to my real identity as result.
Like I said, I never got a rejection, they just straight up did not answer my appeal.
@QueenHawlSera lol. they blocked my account for having been created to evade a previous ban. Which was odd. First account there.
Figured it was some automated bollocks they’d be able to check.
Appealed, they reinstated it. Then permabanned it later same day for same reason. Gave up.Sadly that scans, apparently Reddit is one of the hardest websites to do a ban evade on because it does so many checks. If it gets the slightest whiff of something pertaining to a banned account, they ban you and increase the amount of checks they do.
Not surprised they have false positives.
you cant tell if people are botting/spamming
Good. Separately, I really wish we had a way to search for useful answers on Lemmy. I feel like much of the reddit was exposed through: “question/key words” site: reddit.com googling
I mean, you can do pretty much that by using one of the largest instances. That is most likely to have content from the largest amount of other instances.
Lemmy doesn’t even have a fraction of the useful information you could find on Reddit across lots of topics.
I get what you’re saying it’s just not as practical. Many won’t look for the largest/most relevant instance for their questions.
Thanks for getting me to finally run one of these scripts to scramble and delete everything in my old account. Fuck every American corporation and their user experience.
They restored all my comments a few months later, so I’ve tried it again by editing all my comments to gibberish.
I keep checking mine, no reverse yet. Been a few months, 2 since my last purge
Exactly the tool I’ve used. I purged it about a year ago and randomly discovered that everything was restored about a month ago. I don’t know when it was restored, though.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Well said, I fully support it. Let’s hope at least this place doesn’t turn into 1984 like others.
What a spezhole
I love that people are removing the solutions, but keeping the “holy shit you just saved me 2-3 full quarters of work”
That’s because the person who had the solution removed their comment history, but the person who said thank you didn’t.
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Are there any tools that can edit your comments to make the ingestion of your data into ai models less worthwhile? Eg. The comments are edited to not be random, superficially look like a human made them, but have very little value when sold by reddit
I forget the tool but every once in a while you’ll see a comment of gibberish words and it says “comment removed thanks to X”.
The service edits the comments instead of erasing them.
How would I go about doing this? I want to nuke all my comments since I know deleting my account won’t
Edited with Power Delete Suite - https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
I do this every few months, scans the page, makes the changes. You can see with my account https://old.reddit.com/u/thermal_shock
Been about a month, will probably run it this weekend. Surprising I’ve only been blocked in some subs, no ban even though I said they all the billionaires should be killed lol
Thank you for the links, I think I will try the power delete suite you linked! I might do the same and just edit all my comments to be something like that before I log out for the last time. Sick of that website tbh.
There were tools to do it for your… but after the massive migration they blocked a ton (part of the API block that drove everyone away)
if you google how to do this, you can find some threads, i used a github library that did it pretty easily with a step by step walk through, some let you edit it and fill with quotes or advertising or whatever.
I will look into this, ty!
I personally manually overwrite my comments every few months. Be aware, though, that you can see only the last 1000 comments in your history, so you’d better do it frequently if you are very active. I haven’t seen any of my comments ever restored, unlike what I hear from people who use automated tools.
Good, fuck reddit, anybody with an account should delete all comment history.
I provided quite a few answers in Linux, UNIX, and programming forums. I had to delete my comments multiple times as they kept getting restored. I even had a script that I’d run in my browser that would go through and delete all my posts until a month passed with no restorations, then deleted my account. Reddit should never be a Google result for tech help to begin with. It should take you to documentation.
yeah when I left I deleted everything. When I was talking about it to a friend who uses it, and knows my account, informed me that all my interactions with them are still there. Took a look, and yeah, everything restored.
