KYIV — U.S. President Donald Trump finally labeled Russia the aggressor in the war against Ukraine, further demonstrating a hardening of his position toward Moscow.

Referring to Ukrainian and Russian troop casualties, Trump told reporters Sunday: “8,000 soldiers have died this week, from both countries. Some more from Russia, but when you’re the aggressor, you lose more.”

Trump has previously refused to condemn Moscow for the invasion, with his administration siding with Russia and North Korea in February to reject a U.N. motion backing Ukraine’s territorial integrity and condemning Russia. The U.S also objected to a G7 statement calling Russia an aggressor in February. Trump has blamed Ukraine for the war, saying in April: “You don’t start a war against someone 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.”

But Trump’s stance toward the Kremlin has changed over the summer, with his administration exerting increasing pressure on Vladimir Putin as the Russian president stonewalls Trump’s efforts to broker direct peace talks with Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

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    further demonstrating a hardening of his position toward Moscow.

    What hardening? It’s all talk and no action. That’s not a hardening of position, that’s the exact same position.

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    11 hours ago

    In other news, the National Weather Service has been reporting unseasonable temperatures in Hell.

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    “further demonstrating a hardening of his position toward Moscow”

    Lmao you STUPID FUCKS when will you STOP talking about this guy as if actions are calculated or savvy or something. He’s not “strategizing” or “hardening his position” towards some big-picture outcome like a seasoned diplomat would, he’s just spewing whatever enters his head at a given moment, from whatever thing happened to be in front of him in the last 24 hours

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    He finally has enough liquid cash from crypto that he can pay off all the Russian loans. But I don’t think he realizes that you are never really an “ex”-Russian Asset. Oh, and he should probably stay away from tea for a while…

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      He finally has enough liquid cash from crypto that he can pay off all the Russian loans.

      I’m so tired of people thinking the man at the helm of the largest military and paramilitary force on the planet is terrified of a few Russian gangsters breaking his thumbs over loan money.

      Nevermind that this fundamentally misunderstands their relationship (Trump was laundering money for the Russian [and Italian and probably a few other] mafiosi, not borrowing from them). It pretends that he’s a schmuck who got in too deep with a couple of loan sharks, rather than the head of a white nationalist fascist coup within the halls of the US Government who has fallen in and out with a rival fascist dictatorship on the opposite side of the planet.

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        From Adam Ragusea on conspiracy theories (from his blurred Pyrex video):

        Reality is weird and often not as you would expect. That’s why common sense only goes so far. It’s good to be skeptical of the media you consume. That’s awesome. Question things, absolutely. But don’t go and just make up your own answers, as so many of us are prone to doing. It’s fine to speculate responsibly about multiple different possible explanations for something that you’re scrutinizing, but don’t settle on one of those explanations until you have enough evidence to settle on it. Be open minded, in every sense. If someone is lying to you, you’ve gotta be careful not to invent another lie to replace it. Yeah, you outsmarted the liar, but that’s all you did. You’re still dumber than everyone who knows more than you.

        Smart chef, Adam

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      Now that I think about it… I wonder if his stroke was partially a result of his meeting with Putin…

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    Some more from Russia, but when you’re the aggressor, you lose more.”

    No

    A lot more from Russia, and not just only because it’s the aggressor, but because it’s playing meat grinder with its soldiers. It just keeps dumping the poor in the battlefield.

    It WILL come back and haunt Russia for the next decades because no country can just lose well over a million young men lives without consequences

    But having said that, Russia’s tactics are just ludicrously stupid and basically consists of sending poor men to their death and hoping Ukraine can’t kill them fast enough.

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      One of the more interesting side effects of the meat grinder is that poor, rural areas of Russia are suddenly seeing problems with inflation because of the death payments to soldiers’ families.

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      It WILL come back and haunt Russia for the next decades because no country can just lose well over a million young men lives without consequences

      Basically what happened between Iran and Iraq in the late 80s. It broke both countries for a generation.

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    The incursion into Poland was no idle threat; Putin has said Poland is next on its list.

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      I’m genuinely curious how, though. They haven’t even been able to take Ukraine.

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        I don’t think the goal would be to actually conquer Poland same as they can’t feasibly conquer entire Ukraine. What they would do would be:

        1. Large scale drone attacks on Polish infrastructure.
        2. Meat wave attacks on Polish positions to very slowly gain territory and displace population
        3. Destabilize industry and economy
        4. Force NATO to focus on defending their own position and limit support to Ukraine
        5. Hope to destabilize government and help elect pro-russian politicians (that will promise to end the war)
        6. Exacerbate internal divisions in UE and NATO (Hungary would refuse to assist NATO in any way and probably outright help Russia)

        They don’t have to win the war to extend their sphere of influence. It’s enough to weaken EU.

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        Well I think they were banking on trump helping when he said that.

        Hitler also famously started a two front war he couldn’t win. Its not impossible the brain drain has gotten so far in russia they may convince themselves the first one is free like it was with crimea.

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    Lol.

    'Softest US President the world has ever seen hardens his position on…"

    Where are we on the hardness scale? Pudding? Have we finally made it to Jello?

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      Where are we on the hardness scale? Pudding? Have we finally made it to Jello?

      I think we might be at oversized bean-bag full of baby duck down feathers. It’s still a far cry from pudding, though

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    I wish every american here a very merry enjoy the frontline trenches, I hear youll be home by christmas!

    ☠️