Now i wonder what John Oliver gonna say this week, or he gonna get censored by HBO as well?
Depends on whether or not HBO is seeing continually declining numbers of viewership. CBS, NBC, ABC those are all dying networks and they’ll do anything to stay on air.
This is what I think too!
These are the death knells of dying industry, like Howard Stern leaving terrestrial radio in 2004, which was ultimately the result of the Super Bowl Halftime show when Janet Jackson exposed her nipple.
It’s literally the same crap. Something happens that people don’t like, and a failing media industry tries to stay relevant by clamping down, losing their talent in the process.
Back then it was shock jocks on terrestrial radio, now it’s late night and “cable” tv.
ABC and CBS didn’t get bought recently because they’re doing well, you know?
Sources: Howard Stern’s Wikipedia page, the “nipplegate” Wikipedia page, and having too much energy this morning.
Is your country great again? Was so difficult to vote for her instead to avoid this fascistic nightmare, wasn’t it?
That slogan “Make America great again” made us Germans very uneasy from the start, cause we remember the last guy who promised us (very literally) to make Germany great again.
Where do you think Trump got the idea for it?
I know that Trump secretly admires moustache guy. But I honestly don’t think he is well-read or intelligent enough to realize it’s exactly the same slogan moustache guy used. With Trump, willful ignorance is always the most likely option because malicious intent requires a degree of intellect he does not possess.
Y’all! This isn’t ABC - this is conservative Sinclair and Nexstar Media Group!
@Immarsano@lemmynsfw.com nailed this one by reading the article.
Nexstar Media Group forced ABC’s hand on this by saying they would run non-ABC programming on all their local TV stations they own. They’re in the process of getting FCC approval for a $6 billion deal that would give them ownership of 265 local TV stations in 44 states.
Meanwhile, Sinclair Media, which also owns tons of local TV stations, isn’t letting Kimmel’s rerun on Friday be broadcast anyway, instead showing a CK tribute show. So they were likely also going to do the same to ABC and just hadn’t said anything publicly because they don’t need deal approved right now.
This is the media version of Red-Stating, where state legislatures were slowly turned by the GOP which gave them the power to Gerrymander Dem-held House districts away and turn them red in 2021. How do you stop a global juggernaut liberal media company? You marginalize them by buying up all the local affiliates and stations that still make up a large part of their market. You buy up everything that sits in between the viewer and the media itself. Once the media company withers, you shove in your own programming as gaps open up.
of course it’s also ABC. ABC could have said “lol get fucked” but they bent the knee. And keep in mind ABC is owned by Disney who owns ESPN who JUST made a deal with notorious right-wing “trump buddy, buddy” company TKO to nickle and dime people to watch WWE shows. TKO the same company that is going to put on a UFC event on the damn White House lawn. TKO the same company that decided to cancel Wrestlemania in New Orleans in favor of take MORE blood money from Saudi Arabia and having it there instead.
They all connect with each other so saying one company isn’t to blame and another one is, is bullshit and you know it. ABC is as much to blame as Sinclair. At the end of the day they all bow to dear leader.
Well, it’s ABC who don’t want to stand up to it
Because micky mouse doesn’t give a fuck about anyone except the dollar.
Cancel Disney+, Hulu, ESPN and your live streaming TV/cable sub if you have one.
https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-cancel
https://help.hulu.com/article/hulu-cancel-hulu-subscription
https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/40377589107476-How-do-I-cancel-my-ESPN-subscription
We’re now talking about this instead of how trump is a pedo.
This seems kinda important too though
Sure seems like “minor celebrity” is the threshhold at which anyone gives a fuck.
What? The issue is that government is directly silencing someone by employing threats through FCC not that it’s Jimmy Kimmel
See, I’m someone who can’t stand Jummy Kimmel. I find him both unfunny and very annoying as a person, and I never thought there would come a day where I would actually defend him vigorously, but here we are.
This is truly inexcusable. This is the most blatant violation of the first amendment possible. This is a clear cut example of the government coercing and colluding with corporations to censor a private citizen on a private show for comments that are perfectly legal. He was only censored because MAGA morons got triggered by a statement that’s not even controversial. Even IF it was controversial, that’s literally the whole point of free speech. It’s to defend offensive, controversial, and unpopular opinions from government persecution.
See, I didn’t care much when Colbert got cancelled because it seemed like it was a business decision, sure, whatever. But this? This is MAGA crossing a line that should never be crossed. We’re starting to enter into actual tyranny territory from this administration. The only MAGA conservatives left are either slimy opportunists or blind loyalists, so I’m not holding my breath on them holding themselves accountable. However, I am hoping that everyone else stands up and takes a stand against this because the consequences of this are very, very serious.
July 2: Paramount and Trump settle bullshit 60 Minutes lawsuit for $16 million
July 14: Colbert criticizes the lawsuit saying it’s a “big fat bribe.”
July 17: CBS announces that Colbert is cancelled
Paramount is in the process of a large merger with Skydance Media, which must be approved by regulators (including those controlled/affected by the federal government)
It wasn’t as blatantly corrupt, but it was still corrupt.
Thanks for waking up.
Forgive me, but I’m just trying to wrap my head around how many people have been sleeping and still are.
Tyranny is already here. It’s been here since they started taking people to concentration camps. Like how do people not get that? The line has already been crossed and then some. Tyranny is here and will continue to reign until you and everybody else who is asleep or groggy are willing to wake up and do the hard but correct actions.
I think of “the line” as the event horizon around a black hole. You can recognize it from a distance, but it’s not like there’s a physical barrier you go through when you pass it. That means that if you were actually falling into the hole, you wouldn’t necessarily know when you’ve past the “point of no return.” It’s all just more freefall (and eventual spaghettification) from your point of view. Only those on the outside, looking in, could see that you’re already full and truly screwed.
I think we passed the event horizon long ago. Anyone talking about “going back to normal” (as I’ve seen some politicians say) is depressingly naive. There is no turning back - the only way out is through.
I am amazed and shocked every time the line is crossed.
It is crossing it farther and farther as well, with increasing similarities to other authoritarian lead countries in history.
My shock is not one of ignorance but defying normalcy.
However this stuff has been great for people who didn’t pay attention much before or believe stuff before. This time the administration is barely trying to sugarcoat what they are doing.
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There’s a word for what is happening: Gleichschaltung
The Germans really do have a fucking word for everything, don’t they?
I mean… In this context it is easy for, since we seen this one through already.
We do, because it’s very easy to construct new and rather specific nouns in the German language.
The famous “Schadenfreude” is nothing else but a combination of “Schaden” (damage) and “Freude” (joy).
Wanna mildly insult someone…
- by saying he’s not man enough to take a cold shower? Call him a “Warmduscher” (warm + person taking a shower).
- by saying he used to be the stupid kid at school who always forgot his gym bag? “Turnbeutelvergesser” (gym bag + person who forgets)
- by saying he’s too scared to swim in the center of a swimming pool? “Beckenrandschwimmer” (pool’s edge + swimmer)
There are countless synonyms like that, it even used to be some kind of trend inventing new ones.
In short, I think we Germans are expert “Wortneuschöpfer” (creators of new words).
There’s an English idiom that states; “If it’s stupid and it works, it’s not stupid”.
Something similar to that can be said about the German language’s ability to form compound words.
Now, could you please humour me and let me know if there is one word that could describe a person who is too afraid to swim in the centre of a pool, can only take hot showers, always forgets their gym bag, and takes joy in the misery of others? 😆
Ah, I’m afraid that’s where even the German language reaches its limits.
As soon as you try to convey several separate notions in one word and you’re forced to use “and” in it, it breaks the word. A fine example is the word previously mentioned in this thread:
“Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz”
It’s a law (Gesetz) on the assignment (Übertragung) of tasks (Aufgaben) concerning the supervision (Überwachung) of cattle identification (Rinderkennzeichnung) AND the labelling (Etikettierung) of beef (Rindfleisch). Hence the “und” in there.
In other words, German compound words are very specific and usually don’t carry more than one meaning, I’m sorry to say. :)
Yeah, but they just stitch words together by skipping the space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz
German kids like inventing nonsensical words like that.
My favorite one I remember from my childhood is “Bettdeckenbezugsschonersonnenblumenmusterwebfehler”. Which roughly translates to: A weaving flaw in the sunflower pattern on a bed sheet cover.
they have experience in these matters.
Any one that is incensed like I am should go to the official page for abc and Disney and flood them with negative reviews and emails to their contact page. Let your voices be heard.
people should be cancelling paramount and disney+ subscription, make them hurt where it matters the wallet. currently Paramount is being kept on life support because they are still producing nutrek shows for the moment.
I recently decided to acquire the Star Trek catalogue digitally via other means, to free me from paramount plus.
thats why they are trying to produce as much nutrek shows as possible, it was a bad sign when they cancelled lower decks, and prodigy.
This is madness!
The Nazis are here folks - be ready
Yep. Anyone that says “fascism is coming” hasn’t been outside for a while. It’s already here.
They’ve been there a while, and it’s already too late.
here for decades. ever since after clintons presidency, and al gores win being snatched from him by the corrupted scotus. by the way it was gingrich that spearheaded the “never work with dems on the other side” and i think he was one of the people railing on clintion too. Mitch was basically his succesor.
Just to be clear: they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn’t one of them. He didn’t say anything about Charlie Kirk. He was censored for speaking truth by his own network. Not only censored, censured and suspended indefinitely.
We’re 100% there kids. The founding fathers made a point to put something right after freedom of speech, from religion, and of assembly. Right there 2nd in order. Unabridged. Welp the 1st amendment is being abridged as we speak. And I hear that second thing was put in place to protect that first thing. I’ve been hearing it for over 50 years.
*quick edit in case anyone else wants to try to educate me about the constitution: no, he isn’t protected by the 1st amendment from getting suspended. ABC should be protected but seeing as they’ve already settled for $16 million over threats on their FCC license and brought in new trump-friendly leadership, we can all agree he wasn’t suspended due to ratings drops. Stop pretending things are normal. This is an obvious 1st amendment issue.
Hold up - it goes a layer deeper and is actually fairly similar to what happened to Colbert.
ABC had their hand forced because of a pending merger between Nexstar Media Group and Tenga, which once the FCC approves it, would place Nexstar in ownership of 80% of local TV channels in the US. Nexstar is based in Texas, so it’s not exactly ABC-Disney friendly.
So they threatened to censor Kimmel themselves on local TV stations unless ABC did it for them. They had on the ground infrastructure power to do this.
And yes, we’re 100% there. The key point is to understand that while everyone sees ABC as the Big Bad here, it’s the infrastructure companies that have leverage and no one knows their names or how much they actually own.
Edit: Just saw this - Sinclair’s local ABC affiliates are replacing Kimmel reruns will air their own CK tribute show, just on their own whatever, fuck ABC’s programming.
he can still sue them, but he has an escape plan just in case things dont pan out, aka flee to italy.
Yep.
It’s not just “ABC” either, it’s Disney/Hulu.
I just canceled both services and everyone else should too.
Fuck em. All they care about is money, so let’s show them that siding with fascism costs a shit ton of money
If nothing else it will get the CEO who did this fired.
Wait, Walt Disney would never side with Nazis…would he!!!
Anyone who reads this… Cancel them all and spend a few 100 bucks setting up a Jellyfin server.
I so honestly wish I had time to do that.
Unfortunately, I just need tv to work and Disney+ is a way to throw money at the problem instead of time.
The crazy part is, I do have a 20TB Plex server, but there’s a problem with the machine and I just don’t have time to troubleshoot it. So despite already having much of that content, I’m paying to access it.
I’m an old head, everything I watch on Hulu/Disney I have on Plex.
I was just subscribing because I have disposable income and wanted my dollars to count as eyeballs on media I enjoy.
But fuck that.
A significant amount drop in subscribers not only has a real chance to change their mind, it makes every other corp reevaluate whether to fight trump or not.
When you cancel it asks for a reason, and “Other” gives freeform text - I let them know that bending the knee on fascism was my line.
Yeah same although I’m now concerned about that ending up on my Palantir profile. Isn’t it great that that’s actually a fairly legitimate concern nowadays?
Way ahead of you. I dont watch Disney anything but I’m about to fill my disks with Disney crap and seed away.
I’ll leave this idea here: https://www.drewlyton.com/story/the-future-is-not-self-hosted/
Is someone working on building something like that? I saw the project Storj and the coin, and it seemed like a cool idea for storage, I guess.
What’d be great is if someone started making something like Nextcloud combined with some clones of things AWS components + Kubernetes and make that peer-to-peer as far as running the compute and getting redundant storage, etc.
There was a really interesting project about 10 years ago - cannot remember the name of it now. I think it was a prepackaged OS bundled with lots of self-hosting type of solutions out of the box. Still, that was isolated self-hosting.
ETA: I remember the project now, it’s FreedomBox: https://www.freedombox.org/
Just started Alien Earth, got place to pirate?
If you got a little disposable income try newsgroups, I’ve always been able to find what I need.
FreeMedia? HeckYeah
Try to get an invite to a private tracker. Public ones suck
IPT invites are easy to get and it’s good enough to get started and build a reputation, which you will need for invites to better trackers
You just talk over my head. Enlighten me?
Basically you need to go turn tricks and suck up to people for a invite to a club so you can suck up to more exclusive clientele so you can get invites to even more exclusive clubs.
Said tricks is seeding torrents like a good boy.
Or use Stremio
Unfortunately I don’t have an account to cancel.
Seed more
Dicks out, torrents up
It was a pretty tame comment too. What a bunch of snow flakes.
If you care about democracy and not what some Republican fascist say, right now is the time to buy a gun. The 2nd amendment will be purged next.
…from my cold dead hands, as they say
Cold, dead, pudgy hands.
Maybe yours
Your hands are pudgy don’t lie. You don’t have sleak metal mechanical hands like is proper.
To support the gun economy? The Republicans aren’t coming for the second amendment. What are you getting at?
Look up what the Mulford act is. When the Black Panthers armed themselves and started patrolling their own neighborhoods in Oakland suddenly the Republicans were against carrying a loaded gun in public. The act was signed into law by then California governor Reagan and was even backed by the NRA
Republicans are pro free speech until they hear speech they don’t like. Republicans are pro 2A until they see people that aren’t them carrying guns.
He is saying arm yourself while it is legal, so you have weapons for when you need them to fight off bad people in designer uniforms… Roughly translated.
How’s that working out for people?
2A for all. Time to resist in other ways
He’ll get to youtube and find success there, hopefully.
youtube is part of the problem, they promote thier current regime, through right wing propaganda flooding the feeds.
Brave to assume YouTube won’t censor him. This may go down to Peertube hosted in Europe real fast.
only choice is hosting his own site, or licensing his shows to other networks.
Is Media Goblin still a thing?
Seems unlikely that format would be able to fund his writers / producers etc.
Here’s hoping. Colbert too.
No way they don’t both have a podcast since that’s the financially lucrative model on YouTube, for better or for worse.
Considering a large part of Colbert’s cancellation was poor YouTube ratings tho
Hours per eyeball matter on YouTube. “Ratings” mean fuck-all there.
YT ads pay a fraction of broadcast per impression, so they need exponentially more viewers.
most content creators, at least the big ones dont depend on ads, but brand deals, promotions, and other companies paying them.
But we’re considering Paramount here.
they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn’t one of them
Regardless of how fascist this is of course, I think the killer isn’t one of them, though? For what I understood, he grew up in a MAGA family, but then got radicalized towards the left somehow, probably online ecochambers or friends. I mean the bullet engravings, if that’s all real, are pretty clear.
Downvote me if you like, but my question is genuine, if anyone will bother to reply.
Irrelevant. Right or wrong Jimmy cannot be suspended over this.
The bullet engravings, while some of them use left wing slogans, were entirely based on Helldivers 2 and Groyper memes. It’s an intentional bastardization of the left’s terminology utilized by the far right followers of Nick Fuentes.
Dude is 22, groyper wars began in 2019 he was 16.
Just before that I was playing hall monitor on Reddit reporting subs including frenworld, clown world, etc.
IMHO if he was hanging around people like that he was being radicalized constantly
he probably follows nick fuentes constantly, and consumes other right talking heads constantly, by having tiktok, discord, or stream on, in the background of a computer. i know a trumper in my family that has far-right content constantly as a background on thier pc.
16 is the peak age to get indoctrinated. So that makes sense.
Radicalized by neonazis, fell for a trans girl, committed the right wing terrorism he was groomed to commit.
Making your first queer friend doesn’t suddenly make a person a leftist, nor does it make their violence leftist.
From what I read he was a groyper and felt that Kirk wasn’t right leaning enough. but the news manipulates the information daily, so, :shrug🤷
Didn’t his texts say something to the effect of, “I’ve had enough of his hatred.” That doesn’t sound like something someone who didn’t think CK was far right enough would say.
You believe that this regime would release an accurate accounting of the so-called messages?
I don’t trust a single fucking thing the Nazis are saying.
Ponder this as well, why are they releasing pre-trial evidence so freely? I thought things under investigation (like the FUCKING EPSTEIN EVIDENCE) were supposed to be sealed up tight during investigations?
This is conspiracy thinking.
The Utah county prosecutors office released those texts, not the Trump administration. You’re suggesting that the president and his goons have infiltrated the local prosecutor to plant fake evidence where the shooter obliquely indicates he’s left leaning when the fuckwits can’t even keep reporters out of their signal chats?
Releasing non-confidential information to the public is common in high visibility cases like this at this point in the investigation. They haven’t released anything that would compromise witnesses etc. which is what should be kept under seal.
Jeff Gray (Republican Party) ran for election to the Utah County Attorney. He was on the ballot in the Republican primary on June 28, 2022.
He is one of the fascist controlled goons.
Every single republican is compromised. Active enemies of the republic. If they weren’t, they would denounce America’s Hitler publicly.
So yea, I don’t trust a single fucking word any single worthless anti-american republican could ever spew.
Who knows, but are you assuming that the prosecutors are nonpartisan…? And I’m not an expert on US law, but I thought pre-trial stuff is kept as quiet as possible to not impact the jury selection process and such?
it will be hard to choose a juror, that hasnt heard about Kirk recently, unless your a boomer/retiree or someone very naive that doesnt consume much media, thats how they choose the jurors.
Exactly. They are not to be believed in the slightest, especially when the propaganda is this fucking obvious.
Ideally, but America is one of those stupid places that makes prosecutor an elected office, so they’re always keen to grandstand when the press is biting.
Source on that? I’ve been looking for confirmation one way or the other
There is not enough information to confirm one way or the other, but there is a lot information being released. It’s not hard to find with a simple search. For example the court charges document. (Whether the investigation can be trusted is another question though)
There are no confirmations one way or another yet, but all the circumstantial evidence is pointing strongly that he was rooted in right wing ideologue.
All of the quite possibly manufactured evidence you mean. Never trust a nazi to tell the truth.
Which casing engravings were leftist?
No, not BULLETS. The bullets are the projectiles, not the enclosing brass
There’s no clear evidence either way. If you cherry pick certain facts you can paint a compelling narrative of any ideology.
My take is the dude, like most Americans, doesn’t fit cleanly into right or left politics but was motivated by violent rhetoric targeting queer people. But we’ll see if further information comes to light.
This has nothing to do with the first amendment.
This is the chilling effect of Trump (the President) suing networks who report the truth about him, and recent rhetoric by members of Congress and the DoJ about using the force of government to silence a tractors. Self-centering before fascist wanna-tator comes after you doesn’t make it not a first amendment issue.
It abso-fucking-lutely does.
This is the government controlling speech thru threat of trumped up criminal charges and frivolous lawsuits.
trumps been suing these big corps and they’ve been caving, it worked.
This time he sicced the FCC on them threatening criminal charges, and it worked again
There has to be consequences in the form of immediate loss of revenue or this will keep working and trump will keep asking for more.
Start paying attention cuz it’s getting to the point people won’t believe claims of ignorance for where things are headed.
Corporations are designed to bend the knee…no shock they are doing it…
Fascism, people. This is it
I agree with your point; nothing in the comment I responded to made anything close to or even alluded to your point.
Just look at their “clarifying” response to my comment.
Yeah. Saw that…
You’ve made it abundantly clear you’re treating this like a debate club and not the fall of our fucking country.
You know there was someone else who got relatively famous selling his soul doing that…
Freedom of the press is literally the first amendment. Television is protected by the first amendment. He was suspended because right wing lunatics didn’t like his free speech. In what world does this NOT have anything to do with the first amendment? Why am I even replying to you? You obviously have no idea what free speech means.
You. I like you.
Television is protected by the first amendment.
With limitations on broadcast TV, due to the scarcity of broadcast frequencies.
“Congress shall make no law…”
The press is protected from the government.
It doesn’t have a thing to do with protecting employees of the press form the pressGUESS WHICH FUCKING NETWORK HOSTED KIMMEL
The owner of the company can still suspend an on air personality and it’s not infringing on free speech because it’s not the government forcing that person off the air but rather the network they work for. Also free speech is specifically a congressional issue, the first amendment saying that congress can make no law stifling speech. It actually says nothing about legislative or judicial branches stopping speech. So it would specifically be that congress wrote a bill to kick him off the air. Otherwise it’s all fair game.
it’s not the government forcing that person off the air but rather the network they work for.
It’s the government forcing the network forcing the person off air.
Sure, if you ignore the fact that CBS settled with Trump for $16 million because he didn’t like their free speech, and now they have new Trumpian leadership. You’re absolutely right they have the legal right do do what they want with their business. but the alternative is being attacked by the government again, so is that your real argument?
By the letter of the law, yes. But decades of Supreme Court case law disagree with you.
https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/censorship
You never even heard of Tinker?
Shortly before ABC announced the suspension, Nexstar, an owner of ABC affiliate stations around the country, said that it would pre-empt Mr. Kimmel’s program “for the foreseeable future” because of his remarks.
Any creative ideas to turn cancel culture against these bitchass media companies & their dickhead affiliates? It needs to make the impact on their pocketbook to comply with fascism higher than the cost to oppose.
This is actually the key point. This isn’t just ABC making this decision, this is the Texas-based Nexstar Media Group leveraging their infrastructure ownership to force ABC’s hand.
This company is doing what Sinclair does, buying up local television channels in order to push their agenda.
Oh…oh hey look at that…what a funny coincidence! It looks like Nexstar is looking to do a $6 Billion acquisition that would ONLY be possible if this administration loosens FCC regulations about media ownership. This company would own 80% of local TV channels in the US, up from a previous limit of 39%.
once they lose money from viewership or subscription, they know where it hurts. and kimmel might just sue them for discrimination.
Yo ho, yo ho
Why is everyone acting surprised, Trump said Kimmel is Next after he made Colbert fired: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5410016-donald-trump-jimmy-kimmel-stephen-colbert-cbs/
Yeah this has nothing to do with Kirk and everything to do with fascists being fascists.
Berlusconi did the same 20 years ago in Italy, he made some journalists and TV personalities disappear completely from all TV channels. Trump is just following the same pattern.
If you want to read more about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editto_bulgaro
Clearly it isn’t because of his Kirk comments, since he never actually made any. Piss poor excuse and abhorrent behavior by ABC.
Disney owns ABC
ABC is goosestepping now.
the owner, trumper wants it to become another fox-lite. Which cnn kinda did for a while.
They were goosestepping collaborators when they capitulated to Trump with Stephanopoulos.
Charlie Kirk may turn out to be the Poland radio tower for US Civil War 2.
edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
ABC what a bunch of fuckin’ spineless wimps.
It’s a business. Never expect anything but pragmatic business decisions from them.
Yeah you’re right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_capitalism
Authoritarian capitalism, or illiberal capitalism, is an economic system in which a capitalist market economy exists alongside an authoritarian government. Related to and overlapping with state capitalism, a system in which the state undertakes commercial activity, authoritarian capitalism combines private property and the functioning of market forces with restrictions on dissent, complete lack of freedom of speech or significant limits on it, and either a lack of elections or an electoral system with a single dominant political party.
Next stop, elimination of the Democratic party.
They’ve already called for it, from the white house itself.
