Seems Johnson knows this. Both him and Trump will keep this shutdown going to stop the forced release of these files it seems. Don’t know what kind of plan they’re cooking up though.

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    Covfefe’s law: Trump always turns out to be worse than anyone imagined, even when you take into account Covfefe’s law.

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      At the holidays no less. And today my city had a 2-mile long traffic jam leading to the food bank. This is definitely going sideways quickly.

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    I mean, they’re hosting a historical shutdown specifically to prevent their release. We already knew they were damning.

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    How many people have access to the files right now? Not a single one is doing the right thing. Complicit. If I happened across those files, they would have to murder me to stop them leaking. The level of apathy genuinely makes me wonder if it’s wickedness or some sort of actual brain damage from some chemical or virus we haven’t found yet.

    Fuck

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      Did you not notice the part where Epstein committed suicide, Giuffre was hit by a bus, survived, and then committed suicide, and Maxwell was paid a closed-door visit by Trump’s personal fixer?

      They have and will continue to kill to keep these secrets.

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      If they’re leaked and not officially released, then Trump denying their authenticity (a given) will convince more idiot centrists.

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    Even if the files contain irrefutable proof that Trump trafficked and raped children with Epstein, Johnson and the GOP know that his base will either dismiss it as ‘fake news’, AI or otherwise convince themselves that Trump raped kids because the Democrats used their mind control ray to set him up.

    I suspect the real reason they want to keep it under wraps is to protect their billionaire donors who will be named in the files.

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      I figure a big reason they haven’t just released some doctored files clearing their names ages ago is the threat of mutually assured destruction from anyone else on the list

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    RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES PEDONALD

    I wouldn’t doubt it if he diddled little boys too. Or at least laughed when his close friends did. Disgusting fucking cancer…

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    My bet is there are pictures of Trump balls deep in several 13 year olds.

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    Remember, this case is about dozens rich men raping young girl and the only person who went to jail is a women.

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    The files they don’t have that don’t exist that don’t incriminate anyone on a list that is not real that is a hoax is worse than they ever imagined.

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    It was obvious this was the case when they fought so hard to prevent the release. They continued with it even when it’s clear that the actions they’re taking to keep it hidden it’s damaging for them.

    My bet is that there’s video evidence of Trump raping a minor, or maybe a recording of him admitting it. I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

    At this rate they’re gonna keep this up until Trump dies.

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      There actually IS a piss tape and it’s underage girls involved. I’m sure Epstein’s circle included unscrupulous Russian oligarchs.

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Like their podcast “heroes”, I’m just asking questions here, but:

      What if Trump didn’t just rape kids? He had beauty pageants where he admitted to walking in on naked teenagers to “inspect” them. He walked around “interviewing” contestants, asking them about their lives. He himself specifically chose a decent percentage of the finalists - and by claiming those spots for certain chosen people, significantly reduced the chances for other contestants. And there were not only the contestants, but a bunch of wannabe contestant-types on the fringes. And a lot of those contests were held overseas.

      So, just asking questions here, but: what if Donald Trump wasn’t just raping kids? What if he was actively involved in recruiting and trafficking them?

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        This was my thought as well. A lot of what has come to light feels like he may have been more than a customer for Epstein and possibly a supplier via his businesses and Russian criminal contacts

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        It’s hard to speculate on things like that, but when he openly admitted to reporters that Epstein took girls from his spa, it means the investigation would have to be reviewing such

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        Perhaps Trump is also a cannibal; who knows, maybe… the man doesn’t seem to have any morals at all.

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          Well we know his food preferences are worse than abysmal so. I doubt the cannibal thing unless the baby is well done with ketchup.

          Still with trump it never gets better you know?

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          Oh yeah he did that. Also stuck his fingers in their mouths to “check their teeth” per Noel Cassler.

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        I think there’s evidence that they were business partners in the trafficking operation. Trump owned children beauty pageants, he had girl servants at one of his resorts, reports of some of those girls winding up with Epstein… I bet there are financial transactions proving it.

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          Not to mention the deep ties all of this has with Mossad, the British royalty through Prince Andrew, the Clintons, Bill Gates (look how he has flipped his script lately)…… all the clearly documented high profile people involved, we have heard little snippets about their unusual sexual behavior but never the full Monty. I think it’s Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein levels of the looking the other way and covering things up for years. But this time it’s the leaders of nations and industry caught with their pants down.

          If I was a CIA/mossad agent looking to have leverage on leaders, I would throw lavish parties. Invite everyone important. Keep it straight up at first, then ease into giving small hints about the availability of party favors and women and see who bites. Trap them in unfavorable situations and use that to coerce. Pretty straight forward. If it’s damning enough, you own them.

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          Yep, this is the big story in it I think as well. Sen. Ron Wyden has been investigating the Epstein financial ties and has uncovered billions in suspect wire transfers that several big banks bent the rules on for him.

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            The reason for their fall out was because of these financial ties. They’ve admitted this part.

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        Trump wasn’t just a customer. He was Epstein’s partner and Mar-a-Lago was a hub for international sex trafficking, including child sex trafficking.

        They’re not the Epstein files. They’re the Trump files.

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          This is my thought as well. He has to be in there to such an extent that if they removed all mention of him, what was left would fit on a fucking post it. Otherwise they would have tried to release it with a few pages “lost” and blamed Biden.

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Active participation in not just the rape but the trafficking operation, the big reveal being that he actually solicited these “services” to tons of so far unnamed people?

      Remember this isn’t just about Trump. He’s protecting those padding his pockets and pulling his strings.

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        Don’t forget killing. Maybe they pushed an underage girl out of a jet at altitude. Wouldn’t be off brand.

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          Nah. He wasn’t wrong when he said his followers wouldn’t give a damn if he shot a man in the middle of Fifth Ave.

          The only thing MAGA actually seems to genuinely care for - aside from their constant need to feed their rage and despicable beliefs like racism - is being against paedophilia. They might not care enough about kids to actually offer their tax money to ensure all of them gets to eat, gets proper education, but at the very least a majority of them doesn’t want powerful men to rape them. Which, I guess, is a small win?

          Therefore anything that is truly damaging to Trump will be kid-diddling related.

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          Not easy or safe to the passengers on the plane. It also doesn’t disappear the body.

          Overall this seems like the least likely thing that could have happened.

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            Yeah i mean, he’s a coward too. Maybe on one of his coke fueled helicopter rides to Atlantic City tho.

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      bet is that there’s video evidence of Trump raping a minor

      Just delay until AI video is good enough to claim it’s AI.

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      There could be video of him and his mushroom penetrating someone underage and so many of his meathead cult members will claim it’s “AI” or something.

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        The only thing that matters to them is in-group solidarity. They are bad people. That is a bad person world view.

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      How is that more dancing then what he has already said. Walking in on miss green US change rooms grabbing them by the pussy. He has literally admitted to sexual assaulting the contestants and nobody cares. Just like when/if these files come out nobody well care.

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        I don’t think that nobody will care, but I think the point you’re trying to make is that his supporters won’t care. That we can definitely agree upon.

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        I don’t think that’s the case. He said both things but not at the same time. Those are two different gross stories getting mashed together.