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As a vegetarian who mostly eats vegan, why is it that I find PETA so annoying?
Without looking into it further, I’m gonna guess the same reason I find a lot of people I agree with on a number of issues so insufferable: holier-than-thou, self-congratulatory, moral crusading.
Just existing and being willing to answer people’s questions genuinely is way more effective. I literally never bring it up, people only find out by happenstance and often ask about it themselves. If they don’t, it’s not that interesting (in my opinion).
Anecdotally, anyway.
I mean, people who you believe to be morally right can still be irritating idiots. I’m not a vegan, but I get it. I have friends who are, I don’t say no to a vegan meal (unless there’s corn in it because that gives me an unpleasant time on the toilet). I do think PETA is fighting for something they believe in, and I think that’s admirable. I also think they’re annoying.
Their tactics can be annoying and ridiculous, but I think that any honest assessment of why people generally find them annoying would admit that it’s people being reactionary. The whole “How do you know someone’s a vegan? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you” is almost the exact opposite in reality: people can’t shut up about NOT being vegan.
There’s truth in that for sure. I see it as a human thing, not a vegan/non-vegan one. We just love to be correct.
As a vegetarian who mostly eats vegan, why is it that I find PETA so annoying?
Because they are terrorists.
They fund other terrorists
They kidnap and kill animals from loving homes.
they “adopt” animals and immediately euthanize them.
Often dumping the bodies from both into random dumpsters, when their enormous corpse freezer is full.
They love putting naked women on display in cages and various other clearly fetishistic scenes.
They are a group of extremists who do nothing but harm animal rights by their sheer existence and association with the subject.
They also just murder shelter animals and do negative PR
Genuinely shocked that no one drew a picture of a turkey with legs spread saying “I want to be eaten, Daddy” in reply to this.
Fun fact : The wolf either references Turkish fascism or ancient furry porn OR the other, less popular ancient furry porn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asena
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_creation_mythThat’s a grey wolf, that’s definitely a fascist whistle whilst also now being a government-friendly sign of patriotism
Also an old folk-tales character… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_wolf_(mythology)
My neighbor tried to raise some turkeys for Christmas. Those were bred to grow really quickly but his timing was off. They have to be slaughtered within a small window before they get too fat and their hearts give out. He had to do an early Christmas.
That’s a pretty miserable existence for turkeys
It’s pretty common for animals in the meat industry. A broiler chicken goes from hatching to supermarket in 6 weeks. That’s what’s being called efficiency these days.
I worked at a broiler farm one summer. 35 days is the time from when they arrive to when they leave to get slaughtered.
A lot of people live this way too. They just keep working and getting fatter until they die of a heart attack at 60
Lmfao fair point
You’re supposed to change their feed when they get to the desired size.
Don’t know about the small window thing. We had turkeys for a while, but to be fair it was more about domestic animals than food source. Those things would get huge. I remember once some friends were coming to visit at night and seeing them on the roof got scared and ran off.
Seeing a turkey on someone’s roof might scare me off, too. Turkeys can be bastards.
Mmm… Turkish delight… 🤤
Timmy, have you ever been to a Turkish prison?
I want to be eaten. Nobody’s doing anything about that.
My girlfriend is sometimes a turkey and she loves to be eaten. She asks to be eaten. Sometimes, when she’s really in need, she begs for me you eat her. I have no idea what the original post was talking about
How is she sometimes a turkey? She a furry?
It just means that she’s sometimes silly.
Feathery?
Calling someone/something a Turkey is a colloquial insult.
the greeks are here
If don’t want to be eaten, why delicious?
I’m sure there’s a turkey furry out there with a vore fetish.
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Törki nabır van ulan!
Hav kuld der bi ani bettır abi?
A lot of plants don’t want to be eaten either. Tough shit, I am hungry.
Plants have feelings too
No, they do not. There is no serious study to suggest that they do. Plants do not have a brain or central nervous system. At most, they respond to stimuli. If you really care that much about the welfare of plants, you should go vegan, since many more plants “die” for animal feeding.
Do you feel bad while mowing your lawn? And would you rather rescue a potted plant than a dog from a burning house? Is docking pig tails the same as branch trimming to you? Question upon question…What part of “Tough shit, I am hungry” made you think I care about the desires of the plant?
Plants communicate.
Those tears you shed when cutting onions is because of a defence mechanism of the onion, the scent you smell when cutting grass is another.
We also know that fungi and trees communicate with eachother as well. They even help eachother gain nutrients.
That doesn’t mean they’re sentient though, those are just chemical signals
Yeah, agreed. Life wants to live. Pain and fear is something animals feel so they can get away from potential harm. If you’re immobile like a plant, it doesn’t make sense to feel pain because you can’t run. You don’t need to have a brain nor a central nervous system to deal with that.
70% of global crops are fed to animals. Stop eating animals and grow forests instead, to make our planet healthier.It’s closer to 30%.
About 80% of the biomass of the food grown for human consumption is fed to livestock as well. That may be where you’re getting that number? That’s being insanely generous. What we’re talking about is like, corn stalks, squash vines, that kind of shit. The parts of the plants humans cannot physically eat but none the less must produce to feed ourselves.
I’m sure the irony of your bullshit bingo card is completely lost on you but you haven’t said anything that strictly speaking could be interpreted as true in this thread.
More greenwashing
I’m surprised how much lemmy lets vegans get away with the greenwashing stuff
Is greenwashing a new term where you dont have to engage with vegans in conversation?
Some do, actually. Most plants that taste good basically rely on being eaten as part of their reproductive cycle.
Mostly berries sure but we eat a lot more plants than that.
Fuck plants! I’ll eat 'em all!
If I could photosynthesize and fix my own atmospheric nitrogen, I happily would.
Wanna guess how many plants are wasted to feed animals, only for humans to eat them?
none. not really. if we are using it, it’s not wasted, and much of what we feed livestock is plants or parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat
According to the Soy bean producers of North Carolina, the soymeal is a by product of the soy oil production, where a small portion is used for Tofu and Soy milk and the majority becomes animal feed: https://ncsoy.org/media-resources/uses-of-soybeans/
So all of the soy protein given to animals would indeed be digestible by humans.
Now it might be true that a lot of people don’t want to eat Tofu Tempe and Soy milk, but we could as well plant any other vegetable instead of Soy beans, and who could resist some delicious Brussel sprouts for example???
if we don’t plant soybeans, we won’t get soybean oil
Well, in that case we could just mix the soy protein in other foods, I guess.
But I’d also suspect that we wouldn’t need the quantities of soy oil, and we just use that because of the synergy with the livestock food.
we already feed people soy. but we make a lot more than people want to eat. feeding it to livestock is a conservation of resources
How is converting it to animal protein with a factor of at best 10:1 conservation of resources? Conservation of resources would be to produce less, and also produce less livestock.
If they don’t want to be eaten all they have to do is say it.
They do, in their own way.
All mine said was “gobble gobble,” I’m getting mixed messages here.
Oh, yes. Grey wolves. Far-Right of Turkey…
Meh it’s more equivalent to something like cowboys in the west.
Like yeah far-right likes to use them for ads and pretend it’s their symbol but when Japanese spiderman show has a cowboy with skates it isn’t referencing “American far-right.”
The Grey Wolves officially known by the short name Idealist Hearths , is a Turkish far-right political movement and the youth wing of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP). Commonly described as ultranationalist, neo-fascist, Islamo-nationalist (sometimes secular), and racist, the Grey Wolves have been described by some scholars, journalists, and governments as a death squad and a terrorist organization. Its members deny its political nature and claim it to be a cultural and educational foundation, citing its full official name: Idealist Hearths Educational and Cultural Foundation.
Maybe many use the symbol and they don’t know what it represents, but i don’t take it as an excuse. Same goes with many other fascist symbols.
Gray Wolves are a historic symbol to Turkish people. No turkish citizen is giving that away to a bunch of hypocrite arab nationalists.
If they didn’t want to be eaten, they shouldn’t have been made of food ¯_(ツ)_/¯
You’re made of food
