I was saying death to Windows.It’s not about killing windows… but if it were to have an accident, y’know… I’m just sayin’…
SteamOS is about Valve not paying Microsoft a license fee. It’s not some egalitarian move by them but a cost saving. From a game dev’s perspective it’s additional cost and effort to port a game, or hope it runs under emulation with Proton.
I am surprised they haven’t used it for cloud gaming yet since that’s where the real cost savings kick in but I bet they’re still saving on each Steam Deck they sell without Windows on it.
I need Windows to die because I’m tired of having to use it just to get proper HDR and Nvidia support. Or at the very least, AMD GPUs need to get better.
I’ve finally banished Windows to a virtual machine, and am gearing up to fistfight Easy:
Anti-cheatRootkit AKA Fucking piece of shit that does precisely fuck-all to stop cheating despite having access to kernel space in order to get Sea of Thieves working on my virtual machine.Lemme know if you figure out how to get that working
Update: It’s now working.
Oh nice, congrats! Could you share info about it? That’s been my biggest barrier to dropping Windows as a gamer with many games that I enjoy using root access anti cheats.
I followed a tutorial meant to bypass Easy: Anticheat for VRchat. I manually defined the hardware names and versions of some of my computer’s components in KVM’s XML code. It wasn’t very difficult and only took about 30 minutes in total, setting up GPU passthrough was difficult though.
Thanks so much for the info!
good experience on Windows
Windows 7 was the last time I had that experience lol
98 Good
ME Bad
XP Good
Vista Bad
7 Good
8 Bad
10 Good
11 Bad
Let me know when 12 is out I guess…
Remember when windows said 10 would be the last version of windows, and they’d just keep sending updates from then on? That lie didn’t last long…
And they’re EoLing it this coming October! Can’t they wait until 12 at least to do that? I can’t remember the last time the end of life came before two versions had gone by. Wtf!
Pepperidge farm remembers
They’re desperate to get people on to 11.
Windows 365 is next
Ohhh, I can’t wait to pay a sub for my OS… that I will have no control over
Can’t ignore 2000! That was one of the best!
As a computer os, it was great. Using it to play games not so much. I had quite a few that wouldn’t work with 2000.
It really was. Super stable and no bullshit. Peak windows UI IMO.
Windows 11 is to Windows 10 what XP was to 2000. Stop it.
Not a perfect analogy, but it fits. 11 is literally 10 with a higher build number and a different shell. The same relation exists between 2000 and XP.
The problem is that the shell is what people interact with, and what they equate “Windows” with. Which is understandable and to some extent even correct.
I also think there’s a fair amount of memory bias. People complained about every new Windows version.
If the number is odd, then it’ll be great.
Dunno bout 10 being good though. I can only stand it cuz i have Classic Shell
10 is tolerable at best. Still get annoying notifications about shit I haven’t asked for and nag screens about how my PC isn’t compatible with 11 and what I need to do to update. Also the settings menu is dogshit compared to 7.
Windows feels like a bit of a sinking ship. Not entirely, and it’s slow, but the feeling is present and consistent. I don’t want to keep having to rip apart the OS to remove shit they shoved onto my hardware without my consent. I just want an easyish experience that I can do my shit on, and they aren’t really interested in that it feels.
In comparison to that, alternatives like steam os sounds great to your average user.
The way that’s worded implies that the only way it can hurt Windows is if Windows sucks. Subtle and true. Do better Microsoft. Or don’t. We don’t care, we’re just doing our own thing.
Killing windows would just be a little happy accident
Windows is done. The only thing that can save it is if they turn it into a spy machine that can do your laundry. Then users will happily give them the keys to their lives and underwear.
Honestly almost everything works on my steam deck. The only things that don’t work are online only games with anti-cheat, and I barely ever touch those. I could possibly make the leap on my main pc to be fully steamos
Make the switch to Linux, by all means but I don’t think you should use SteamOS as a desktop OS.
Especially if SteamOS remains immutable when it lands, then I really won’t be able to suggest it except for situations like “my kids have a habit of blowing up their computers” or something.
I actually like immutable OSes exactly because most people do have a habit of blowing up their computers.
But have you tried to use one as a daily? Concept is great, but I wanted to erase kinoite from the face of the planet about 4 hous in.
Other than SteamOS on my SteamDeck, no but I was considering making the switch to Kinoite.
Maybe try vm first, make sure you want it.
Probably a good idea but I hate switching distros and generally try to avoid it until I break the one I’m using and then I go all in. I have a bunch of backups so it should be fine.
Yet or ever
Ever. It’s not a desktop OS.
Darn, so you mean “We expect most SteamOS users to get SteamOS preinstalled on a Steam Machine” meaning handhelds?
Here I thought maybe they would go full fledged desktop OS 😞
I don’t think they mean necessarily handhelds but definitely console-like machines. Like the OG steam machines.
Well yeah… Windows users can still use Steam. They sell games. They don’t want people to switch anything; they wanna sell more games.
And they want to hedge against Windows trying to monopolise the gaming market. You know, the kind of thing government oversight used to prevent in days gone by.
tbh i have more faith in Gabe and val e than the DoJ
Honestly it’s not that Gabe or Valve is a FOSS champion, it’s just that FOSS is the only viable alternative to a potential Windows walled garden, so it’s what they used.
If SteamOS plays a significant role in killing Windows, the credit will still belong to the FOSS movement. They are the ones that laid the ground for SteamOS to stand on, and they are the ones who ensured it couldn’t be fenced in once more.
good point!
Microsoft wants all future apps to go through their store. Basically like Apple does in Mac [ appears you can ]. I do believe this is the future for Windows apps. Once that happens, Valve running on Windows will be second fiddle. Valve’s only choice is to migrate to another OS or end up like Mozilla.
Holy misinformation Batman! You don’t have to use the App store for anything on MacOS. Matter of fact many popular apps are not found in the AppStore at all.
iPhone and iPad may be walled gardens but I’ll go out on a limb here and say that MacOS is actually more open than Windows or at the very least it’s as open.
Thought Mac store was required. Guess not.
Mac user here. I never use the App Store.
They’ll never be able to force that.
It would instantly break compatibility with >99% of windows software.
They are trying with Windows S but i don’t think it has much of a market.
The killing is more a side effect than the actual goal. Got it.
the only one that can kill windows is microsoft
