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      do you know how hard it is to have a fetish for women being bigger and taller than you, when you are over 6 and a half feet tall?

      😭

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            Thats as much a fantasy as finding a 9 foot tall woman to pat me on the head and say she is proud of me.

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                I am an entire warehouse, filled with pods, which themselves are full of issues, trauma, and baggage.

                and I have had 2 therapists be completely dumbfounded and shocked at how well adjusted I am for all of it, lol.

                its rarely a good thing when you shock a therapist.

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                  We all are, to varying degrees. Some are just more aware of it than others.

                  But I didn’t approach your last remark by the harsher side. All the images coming to mind as I read it were censorable out of being plain stupid and childish.

                  Therapists can easily suffer of professional bias. I’ve done therapy as well and it came to a point when I felt my therapists were overly concerned and trying to victimize me. It is their role to help us be aware of things that may be lacking or holding us back but their trainning can make them view things as so damaging that a person being to cope and manage trauma by themselves and lead a somewhat balanced life is an impossible concept.

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        Yeah dont tell me im six foot which is the average where i live but women are just so much shorter… for me it actually helps that im 100kg with a pretty muscular build because I only care abou the height and from my experience taller women tend to like wider men. Idk. Still its hard out here lol

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          That’s a funny comment, but yeah - I’m the average height of men in my area, and like to be outmassed. I do like guys to be bigger than me in some dimension, and it hasn’t ever been height (tall guys here all seem to date short women). I have been about the same height as the guys of all my 3 serious relationships (not unusual since that’s the most common guy height) but have been the more slender of us always.

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      I wonder if we will ever evolve to the point where we can talk about women online without some mad lad needing to sexualise them.

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        Oh noes! They’re talking about s-e-x? Gross! We’re not supposed to talk about that! That’s naughty - we should be reading our bibles instead!

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        You are telling me that a woman practically naked from waist below is not sexual? You might be gay.

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          Do you have sisters? Do you ever go to the beach? No, it’s really not normal to find yourself reduced to base sexual impulses, and type them out on your computer just because you can see someone’s body.

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            Yes, I am sane enough to not have sexual urges about relatives. Everyone else is fair game.

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            It’s athletic long legs. Chill, person, it’s absolutely partnof human nature and not disrespectful in any way to appreciate that that is sexy.

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        I’d be satisfied if women got to openly sexualize men and talk about it. That would level out the playing field and, hopefully, reduce the unnecessary sexualizing of trivial things.

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        That is literally the opposite of evolution, we evolve to procreate that means more sex and sexualizing.

        TLDR: if you don’t sexualize women on the Internet you are an affront to evolution and a sin against nature.

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          Technically evolution is an emergent phenomenon from the reproduction of organisms. If you were to clone yourself with slight mutations it would still allow evolution to happen with zero inherent need for sex or sexuality whatsoever

          Regardless of that, sexualizing women typically leads one to be an incel not a successfully mating male which means it would be the opposite of evolution by your reasoning.

          It’s also interesting that your premise is generic but your conclusion is specific. “Sex is to be encouraged for evolution; that’s why we should sexualize women specifically” If you aren’t a misogynist, you might want to switch your TL;DR to “sexualize people” not specifically “women”

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            Sexualizing women does not “typically lead to being an incel”, that’s just crazy. Blaming women for failure to succeed in finding a sexual partner is what leads to that.

            It’s not inherently bad to see people in a sexual light, what matters is when and how you act on those feelings, and respecting that people are also more than sexual objects.

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              It’s not inherently bad to see people in a sexual light, what matters is when and how you act on those feelings, and respecting that people are also more than sexual objects.

              You are confusing ‘sexualizing’ someone with finding them sexy. When people talk about sexualizing women they are referring to treating them as sexual objects.

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            The secret lies in the balance - if i don’t sexualize women at least a little bit, i would probably don’t have a sexual preference for women.

            The important thing is being able to keep it in check - I can talk with every woman without hitting on them, even if i might have sexual thoughts about them in secret, just like women will probably sexualize their preferred gender and still be able to behave decently towards men.

            There’s a time and place for everything. If it were any other way, humanity would have probably died out by now - either by being primarily asexual or by being disgusted by the opposite sex and their inappropriate behavior.

            P.S.: My hypothesis is that since most people are alone while posting, they are mentally in a space where such thoughts are not suppressed as much, which leads to a higher occurrence of horny remarks than in real life. A minuscule amount of people of those who can’t stop themselves from expressing their adoration of those legs would be like that when meeting her. And yes, those legs are sexy as hell, and i’m pretty sure she knows it, or this photo would not exist.

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            It’s amazing how many hoops you’ll jump through to make a literal scientific fact sound bad but in any case I was obviously speaking in hyperbole to piss people off.

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          You do realize there is a difference between sexualizing someone and finding them sexy right?

          If people stopped treating others like objects this instant, people would still be attracted to each other and still want to have sex and procreate.

          Your statement is wrongheaded and ignorant. Do better.

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            Doesn’t matter, evolution is a tendency as in we tend twords things that cause us to reproduce including finding potentially valid breading partners as literal sexual objects.

            sex is also a base emotion as in has a higher priority than most other emotions so we will always view things as sexy before we take any other emotions into account or at least evolution will always tend towards sexualization.

            But more importantly it is not an insult, saying someone is a potentially good mate on a subconscious level is a complement and I don’t actually care what a bunch of puritanical virgins think, this is the exact reasoning that causes the birth rate to plummet in developed countries people that think they are to good for sex.

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              Doesn’t matter

              It does matter Stupid (you don’t mind if I call you by your first name do you?).

              Evolution is not ‘a tendency’. Evolution is the change in a genome over successive generations. There are many different factors that play into evolution, such as fitness, genetic drift, and sexual selection. In human beings we are less controlled by such forces because we have consciousness and knowledge of how genetics works, so we can choose who we procreate and thus are able to direct our own evolution.

              So, assuming that you live in a country that doesn’t have arranged marriages- you will have to try and get a partner based on your personality, looks, intelligence etc. If you go around treating women like objects and making stupid ass remarks- you are actually less likely to procreate, not more.

              sex is also a base emotion

              Sex is not an emotion. It is an activity. One whose evolutionary purpose was to procreate, but now is used for many other purposes.

              we will always view things as sexy before we take any other emotions into account

              That may or may not be true, but what is true is you have the ability to control your behavior. So for example let’s say you were to view a picture of a tall and beautiful woman on the internet and you find her sexually attractive, you don’t have to come on to a post that really has nothing to do with sex and make it known to everyone how much you would like to bang her.

              Now I know you are stupid, but are you stupid enough to think there is even a remote possibility that Anna Smrek would A) See this thread. B) See your comment and respond by DM’ing you to meet up so that she can have your baby? Because if you are not that stupid then your biological urges, evolution, procreation and whatever other lame excuse you want to say for getting on here and sexualizimg her does not matter in the slightest. It doesn’t serve any purpose other than to spread your toxic and childish view of women. And that is entirely your choice. ‘Evolution’ didn’t force you to act like a chud.

              Did you ever stop to think that the other heterosexual males who don’t treat women like objects are the product of evolution just like you are? We probably have similar responses to seeing beautiful women as you do, but we are able to control ourselves and not act like misogynistic assholes because we are adults and in control of our emotions.

              But more importantly it is not an insult

              See Stupid, this is what I’m talking about. Women have been saying for years that hey want to be treated like human beings and not JO material for man-babies, but because YOU can’t comprehend why they would feel that way- you conclude that their feelings don’t matter. Perhaps if you were a sexually desirable creature, and women treated “men” the way you treat them, you might understand why being treated like a piece of meat is annoying and gross. But you are not and they are not. The problem comes when you are unable to look beyond your own base instincts and put yourself in other peoples shoes.

              this is the exact reasoning that causes the birth rate to plummet in developed countries people that think they are to good for sex.

              LMFAO, you kill me son. Every time I think you can’t possibly get any stupider, you type another sentence. 🤣

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                I started reading this but then I remembered I don’t care what you think and this is definitely AI generated so I definitely don’t care, goodbye.

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    GOOD thing she isn’t Trans! OTHERWISE she would have an Unfair Advantage! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

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    Holy cow. I thought this comment section would be filled with light hearted jokes. Some of yall need get your chronically online asses outside.

    The is the most reddit esque comment section I’ve seen on lemmy and it’s gross

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      There are plenty of reasonable comments. Most have more upvotes than the sexualizing ones. That said, look closely at what she is wearing in the pic. If she put shorts on, the sides of that thing would still be above the shorts. The image was designed to have sexual appeal. She is showing more skin than most people have. So of course some people are going to go in that direction. Men in general haven’t evolved enough not to.

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        With an image designed to have sexual appeal, is it wrong to see the sexual appeal?

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            I am sorry if I misunderstood you. Would you mind explaining the line about evolving? It seemed to imply to me that there is a possible (better?) future state of things?

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              ah yes. Seeing it is fine. Saying what your thinking… not so much. But I wasn’t trying to imply that I am more evolved… I am litterally saying that man (and women really) haven’t evolved enough to not think about sex and screwing when we see an image like that. And anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Some have been trained or learned not to say what they are thinking, but most are thinking it all the same. I am sure there are exceptions of course.

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        I said nothing about sex appeal. She’s hot, and he’s hot but that’s not what im talking about

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      Lemmy is pretty great compared to reddit so long as the topics stay away from anything to do with feminism or women’s rights. Otherwise it starts to feel like the reddit cesspit is leaking, and it’s depressing. Anyone remember the few days when “the bear” discussion took over the fediverse? Those were dark times. Or any time someone even mentions the word “mansplaining”, even if it’s satirical.

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      That’s a light-hearted take. Why do some people like to work themselves into a froth with their imaginary scenarios?

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      Lemmy is full of the worst reddit bullshit. I was genuinely surprised at first, primarily because I thought it was going to be a bit of a refuge from bottom of the barrel idiocy. Instead, it’s the worst of it.

      The unbelievably pathetic trash is why I am still looking for a good reddit alternative. Seeing all of the problems we solved on reddit years ago is honestly kind of sad.

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        Seeing all of the problems we solved on reddit years ago is honestly kind of sad.

        How were they solved?

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          Banning bottom of the barrel lowbar zero effort trash like images of text, non funny showerthoughts posts that say “this water is hot”, stuff like that.

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        Lemmy is designed to solve only one of Reddit’s problems, and by solve, I mean make it so it does not require complete abandonment of the platform when things go bad. The things you’re complaining about exists because Lemmy works very similar to Reddit in a lot of things, so the discourse will also go down the same path eventually.

        The same thing will happen if you look for other Reddit alternatives unless it is not only specifically designed to avoid them but also succeed in doing so.

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          I just thought that not only would people be used to not being worthless, but that the rules would train them to be baseline. Stepping up moderation is clearly a major requirement and I’m sad that’s the case.

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      I’m not disagreeing with you but try using a period now and again they don’t cost any money

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    But it’s paramount that we ban the 5’5" trans girl who has testosterone lower than cis girls from playing volleyball because…reasons.

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      You clearly don’t know much about the sport. Women’s net is far lower because there’s a significant physical power difference between men and women. It’s not just about average height.

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        Sure. There are differences in musculature and such. But after a period of hormone therapy, those muscular differences disappear. When this is pointed out, transphobes inevitably move the goalposts and start talking about larger bone/frame size. Or they’ll spread lies about how trans women must have larger frames and thus be a danger to their cis peers. Well here’s this cis woman, with a massive frame size, who could utterly stomp all over the vast majority of trans female athletes. And she’s allowed to play.

        But people just make ignorant assumptions and assume that the athletic performance of trans women is anything remotely like the athletic performance of cis men. They start with that conclusion and work backwards from there.

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          Well then you’d have to allow for added criteria that this fictional transgender person do tests to corroborate that they don’t have an unfair advantage over their peers.

          I have literally nothing against trans people but there have been at least one case where a trans person had an exaggerated unfair advantage. This case of one “Lia Thomas”, who went from 462 in male rankings to 1 in female rankings. So yeah, I do believe that these extra controls should be performed.

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            You’re repeating right wing propaganda. Here’s a breakdown of Thomas’s actual performance before she was hounded out of competition:

            https://www.pinkmantaray.com/resources/lia

            And even if you could prove there was some advantage in swimming events, why would you immediately go to the bigoted solution of banning people from competing? That’s what makes this so clear that this isn’t about sports, it’s about bigotry. If you can prove that trans women have some advantage in individual swimming events, fine, give them a handicap to cancel it out. That way you can still respect everyone’s human rights and dignity, even if you do prove that there is some advantage.

            But you have never once in your entire life seen a Republican politician propose using handicaps rather than bigoted bans. Because it’s not about fairness, it’s about bigotry.

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              I’d have to read it more carefully but it does seem that the article you shared is right. I think I should research the topic a lot more to have a better understanding of when it’s fair or not to let a trans person compete. Perhaps it’s not unfair at all and I’ve been falsely led to believe that it is by the media I’ve watched.

              And even if you could prove there was some advantage in swimming events, why would you immediately go to the bigoted solution of banning people from competing?

              To rephrase your question: “why would you ban someone from competing if they have an unfair advantage?”. Do I really need to answer that? It’s not about being bigoted or not, it’s about being fair.

              But you have never once in your entire life seen a Republican politician propose using handicaps rather than bigoted bans. Because it’s not about fairness, it’s about bigotry.

              Don’t make this about US politics. I’m not or want to be a US citizen. My comments are not due to a US Republican/Democratic/Whatever bias. If there’s a bias, it’s my own. Don’t complain about people putting others in boxes and then turn around and do the exact same thing.

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        We all know you what you really meant:

        “Stop drawing conclusions from empirical data, it interferes with my prejudice and bigotry.”

        Or, did you actually think you were courageously taking a stand for…what, exactly? Being a jerk?

        Did it really never occur to you that choosing to let your ignorant fear shape your perspective makes you weak??

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          Lol. There is plenty of empirical data to show that the best men are better than the best women.

          Have a gander at the records in all sports.

          If that does t cut it, how about the European studie that tested the strength and fitness of over 2 million kids. It showed that top 5% of male at birth is stronger than top 1% of at the age of 9. It gets much, much more skewed after puberty.

          https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/52/22/1445.long

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            Please tell me you didn’t realize we’re talking about athletes that have undergone HRT and this study isn’t applicable in that case.

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            There is plenty of empirical data to show that the best men are better than the best women.

            Wow.

            We could pretend that you forgot to say something about “when it comes to sports” or some other kind of qualifier, but we all know that’d be a lie.

            So, thank you for proving my point. It is truly just sad and pathetic the way you try to pretend like you even know empirical data means.

            Take your bigotry and shove a back up your ass where it belongs.

            (Did you really think that quoting an extremely widely discredited study that did not involve any empirical data whatsoever was some kind of gotcha? Jesus Christ, that’s just pathetic)

            For the record, obsessing over other people’s genitalia is just fucking weird.

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              2 million people tested. Seems pretty solid if you ask me.

              We could pretend that you forgot to say something about “when it comes to sports” or some other kind of qualifier, but we all know that’d be a lie.

              Well, we are talking about sports? Are you actually trying to undermine my argument just because you can’t follow context? Stop arguing if you have nothing other than bad faith to come with.

              Give me a better study showing that the trans medication actually works. The best anyone has given so far was a study showing 15 random people of Facebook that didn’t even compete in sports.

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                Whoa. Seriously? So if we’re not talking about sports you seriously just believe men are better than women.

                Yeah goodbye. I’m done with you

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                  Read their comment again: the grammar is a little convoluted, but they’re just saying that they were talking about sports and that they were not ranking men above women in general.

                  Edit: spelling

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                  And only bad faith readings from you since you can’t understand that we are talking about sports.

                  Go lick a salt block or something.

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            None of this proves the op comment you replied to was “making shit up”, their only claim was that some trans women have less testosterone than cis women.

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            Not even the top men high school boys where better then the top female athletes.

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              There are of course differences depending on the sport. But eventually the best men are better than the best women, which is the whole issue summed up. At the very least in physical sports.

              Explosive sports exposes the issue more clearly. Which is why 15 year old boys win against the womens national team in football (soccer). 14 year olds have beat elite teams in womens hockey.

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            It gets much, much more skewed after puberty.

            Because the primary causitive variable here isn’t the person’s sex chromosomes but their relative hormone levels. It’s highly correlated to the sex chromosomes that one is born with, which is what your data shows, but it isn’t the cause.

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              Barring a syndrome, there is direct cause between being born with sex chromosomes and hormone shifts during puberty.

              A rare example would be Caster Semenya. I 100% think she should be allowed to compete as a woman, as she was born as one. Even if her hormones are raised due to mutation.

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                If the doctors had designated her sex “correctly” when she was born would you hold the same opinion?

                Why is her situation any different than someone who medically matches her hormonal levels, irregardless of assigned sex at birth?

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                  There is no confusion about her sex. She was born as a woman and she considers herself a woman (not that it matters for sports, only that she was born as one)

                  Obviously taking drugs to match would be incredibly wrong. Just like doping is wrong.

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        What am I making up? This woman almost certainly has athletic advantages far greater than the vast majority of the trans athletes people get so apoplectic about.

        Stop making shit up to fit your narrative. It detracta (sic) from the actual issue.

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            If someone has ADHD and takes medication - as directed - to help them focus on their training regiment, would that make you as upset? It’s certainly a drug to “alter,” as you say.

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              I suppose if all could take adderall, then it wouldn’t be an issue.

              I think you are missing the point of competition though.

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                Pretty sure the point is fun and entertainment. Some people care about finding the “best,” but as the saying goes, it’s not about whether you win or lose…

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                  Now there is the actual issue at hand. Of course its about competition. That is the entire crux of the issue, and you can’t just wave it of like some irreverent side matter in the case of sports.

                  Kids already play mixed, since gender differences are small enough to be negligible. That is when the fun part matters the most.

                  I just find it funny that people are so willing to put actual trans rights in jeopardy just for the slight inconvenience of barely a dozen trans women in the US. Or you actually think it’s ok for men to compete with women?

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                It’s funny because you’re so close to understanding why sports aren’t fair right here. There’s all kinds of diseases, mutations, nutrition, upbringing, etc. that have bearing on the results of competition but you’ve chosen this random line in the sand of trans athletes to get up in arms about, wonder why that is? I wonder why Lebron spends 1.5 million on his body annually, look how fair we are guys!

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                  Please loose the condescending tone.

                  Sports are of course both fair and unfair. But i find your example hilarious. LeBron James? Ah yes, the boy raised in a shithole, dirt poor by a single mother, but happened to both be exceptional at both working at his craft AND was lucky with the gene lottery.

                  There isn’t a better example of the greatness of sport, but you try to twist it to be a negative 😂

                  It’s as far from a random line in the sand as can be. Born men are not to compete against women. As long as there has existed womens sport, this rule exists implicitly, by definition.

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            Hey man if you ever find yourself in a situation where they make drugs that can make you better I think you should take them

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        Why? Height doesn’t automatically equate to back problems. Uneven weight distribution (belly, boobs, etc.), poor stretching habits, lack of excerise, bad posture/form/lifting, or injury equate to back problems at ANY height.

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          Its mostly because we gotta use the kitchen sink, bath sink, toilet chairs, bed, couch etc for mini people. So having to crouch all the time would do your back in quick.

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            I have a friend that is 5’7.5" and that really is the threshold. Because after that, you’re taller than a standard door frame and have to duck to go in or out of anywhere.

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            Being much closer to her height than his I can confidently say that’s just not true, short of your feet literally hanging off the end of a bed. You just have bad posture, bad form, and don’t stretch.

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      I have one nephew at 6’10” and another that is 7’1”. They both cope well enough even when challenged with size obstacles. They are young and generally positively motivated which helps.

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        Oh yeah, being young would be great. I’d dunk on everyone.

        I will clarify that being in my forties there’s no way that would be a good time.

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      I actually know someone who is that tall and he has a daughter who is tiny. It’s really awkward talking to both of them at the same time because he stands at a normal distance which really feels far too close because of how tall he is, but if you step back you feel like you’re about half a mile away from his daughter.