Donald Trump says he “won’t be extorted” by Democrats to reopen the government, making clear that he has no plans to negotiate as the government shutdown will soon enter its sixth week.
In an interview on CBS’s “60 Minutes” that aired on Sunday, Trump said that Democrats who are demanding an extension in health care subsidies “have lost their way” and predicted that they will eventually capitulate to Republicans who have said they won’t negotiate until they vote to reopen the government.
“I think they have to,” Trump said. “And if they don’t vote, it’s their problem.”
Trump’s comments signal that the shutdown could continue to drag on for some time as federal workers, including air traffic controllers, are set to miss additional paychecks and as there is uncertainty over whether 42 million Americans who received federal food aid will be able to access the assistance. Senate Democrats have now voted 13 times against reopening the government, insisting that they need Trump and Republicans to negotiate with them first on an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year.
I hope one of his cankles explode.
That statement is just proof that trump extorts everyone and anyone he can.
A boomer told me Trump wants the shutdown to be 47 days because he’s the 47th president, and it’s stupid enough I believe it could be possible.
Oh my god. Someone I know that works at a prison told me he thinks he shutdown will end by the middle of November, are you telling me that THIS is the reason why he said that? It’s so bizarre, it’s probably true. SMH.
He’s about to break, I guess. Didn’t take long, did it?
Translation: I won’t do my job
If any democrats cave to their Healthcare plans or any other rediculous shit the republicans have planned, I’m not voting for those democrats. The democrats needs to grow some balls, cuz I’m tired of them giving in and chuck Schumer writing strong letters.
Frankly, I doubt he even actually writes the letters. Even his toothless threat is probably empty.
Hot digity damn!!!
Trump is always lying so a deal must be close because he is about to cave
Finish the sentence, buddy. Extorted to do what exactly?
Oh that’s right, reduce people’s healthcare premiums by 300%
Edit: just to be completely accurate, premiums have gone up by ~300% because the subsidies ended. Bringing them back will bring that back down.
It’s really more that they’re trying to “extort” him into not raising premiums. The Democrats aren’t trying to strongarm reduced prices; they’re trying to stop price gouging.
On a longer timeline, they’re “extorting” him into not killing a few million people. And he’s throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to allow anybody to get in the way of this easily preventable mass death.
Even if a person is so heartless that they don’t give a shit about that and only cares about money, that’s gonna lead to fewer workers, fewer purchasers of goods and services, and less free time to enjoy purchases. So even the inhuman sludge monsters of capitalism should see that this is gonna be bad for business and be against this. There’s literally zero benefit to doing this if you look beyond the current financial quarter unless your goal is to destroy the country and hurt people.
It’s like shitting diarrhea all over the birthday cake so it can all be yours, but it’s your own fucking birthday party. The art of the deal.
Unfortunately, capitalism demands that MY employees have no free time, to keep the quarterly numbers up, but everyone else’s employees need to have free time, to spend money.
I mean the Trump admin and their backers are pretty clearly oligarchic. I would argue that oligarchy is one of the later states of capitalism, but ultimately they don’t care about economic spending; they care about maintaining or further consolidating their monopolies and monopsonies. Amazon doesn’t care that their profits will fall, they care that they are the only middleman between America and the broader world, whether that be through goods or the internet. It doesn’t matter if their workers can’t afford their stuff; the goal is to be the only source, where their workers have no choice but to afford it. “That’s not how economies work!” OK nobody said these people were sane, just that this is what they think.
Sorry to be that guy. But they’re not wanting to reduce premiums by 300%. That would make premiums -200% of what they were before. They want to reverse the increase of 300%. Which is actually a reduction of 75%.
They went up by 300% so re-enabling the subsidies would reduce it back to 0.
They went up by 300% so now they are at that new level. Reducing by 75% (of the current new level) would put them back to what they were before.
Ok, reduce them by 300% of what they were before. I even edited my original comment, goddamn
And releasing the Epstein files
“Are we still talking about that guy???”
No, we’re talking about who his clients were
More tariffs on an ally? Rape someone? He’s such a zany wildcard
Tonight @ 9: Clinical narcissist talks about how something relates to him instead of the 330 million people he represents.
I won’t be extorted into stop being a criminal
Okay Boomer
1 in 8 people are about to be shunted out of assistance and in to the worst inflated grocery market Ive seen in my lifetime. You know what happens when people are hungey? They get desperate.
Desperate enough to riot and he is counting on it.
I think a lot of people here think that riots will be some sort of end game that will remove Trump when it will actually be the next step in his plan to enact martial law and cancel elections.
they do not need an excuse, if they want martial law they will invent a reason like they did the last bunch of times. do not advocate for inaction
I agree they will invent a reason. I think this is them inventing a reason. I agree also that it shouldn’t be an argument for inaction. If it doesn’t happen over this it’ll happen over something else. It might as well be this. The more they can do whatever they want the worse things get.
Of course they need an excuse. They may have the house and supreme court in their pocket but there’s still the army and the rest of the world. If they would try to enact martial law out of nowhere the military leadership may simply refuse to enforce it and if they do, other countries will de-invest from US real quick and may even put some sanctions on the government.
Also, I’m not saying people shouldn’t do anything. I’m just saying consequences of some actions will be different than they imagine.
the last excuse was some nobody got car jacked, and instituted the lockdown of two cities. they do not need an excuse when they can manufacture one. the military leadership has not stepped in, and when there was a coup, they were also awol from their duties, waiting to see how things shook out. And currently other countries are scrambling to divest from the US real quick. the rest of the world will not help us.
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Riots are easily controlled.
Assassins are not.
He is expanding his bunker and is driven everywhere in one of the most armored limos on the planet.
Add on only doing indoors events (if he does any at all) and, yeah, assassins are pretty controlled.
Maybe some of the rank and file will get got but nobody cares about them. See: The Future Mrs vance’s dead ex husband.
So am I.
This is a big country and millions of people outnumber the few oligarchs. Will he order the US military to kill millions of its citizens?
Yes. Obviously. Maybe not millions, but dictators usually make an example out ouf a few hundred thousand with such big atrocities that it acts as a deterrent
No, he’ll order his military to kill a few citizens to make his point that the rule of law is over, and 90% will fall in line. The 10% will become the new “terrorists” that Kash Patel’s FBI hunts and imprisons or kills as continued examples, or he’ll start a war and send them in as fodder.
He’s trying to be Putin or even Kim Jong Un. He doesn’t need his military to suppress all rebellion, just to protect him from the consequences of his actions while he enjoys the privileges of power. That’s much easier.
History shows that they are really into killing and raping innocent citizen because a rich guy tells them to. What makes you think they care? A lot of them are even brown, win win
Desperate enough to give the President an earful not just a graze?
Oh, the guy that half of the voting populace were conned into thinking he’s good at making deals is refusing to make any kind of deal whatsoever?
He doesn’t make deals he just cries and threatens people until he gets his way, he’s a fucking hack and I’m really beginning to absolutely abhor anyone who could have possibly voted for this absolute toxic garbage dump of a “person”
All the trump bumper stickers are looking like some tempting targets these days. If I hadn’t spent the last 8 years getting my life together I’d probably already be in prison.
if you’re just beginning to abhor them, you have not been paying nearly enough attention.
Oh I have, I’m just generally a decent person, I know people get confused, I know there is so much disinformation out there, news agencies you used to be able to trust are pushing propaganda, as much as I want to I really can’t fault people for getting lost in the massive barrage of bullshit. That said, it was clear who this man was a looooong time ago.
Yeah, he’s never made deals despite him trying label himself a great dealmaker. Anyone that voted for him for his dealmaking prowess hasn’t paid attention for the last 60 or so years. He’s always just used the privilege that he was born into to bully people.
he won’t be extorted into making healthcare more affordable for americans.
I wonder if the US Congress will ever reconvene, at least in its current form.
Perhaps not. They might have to swear in the new Democrat they’re currently blocking for a month now, which could possibly lead to the release of some iteration of the Epstein files.
This is a very common theme in both successful and unsuccessful attempts at totalitarian takeovers. Essentially blaming the opposition for specific issues/events, followed by a crackdown, then a “restructuring” (for managed opposition e.g. Zimbabwe’s Tsvangirai) or completely outlawing the existence of such parties (Greece under Metaxas). I’m very concerned about the near future. If the Republicans (this is bigger than Trump) are successful in their final push for an authoritarian state, it will result in the death and suffering of billions, guaranteed.
Billions…?
Via war and it’s fallout, yes. The disruption to food, safe water, shelter, medical care, etc can increase the death toll well beyond direct casualties. Those are the most immediate effects, which doesn’t take into account the extreme pollution caused by munitions or burning structures/vehicles. All this is also only considering the use of “conventional” weapons.
I too worry about trump bringing horrifying new wars. I don’t quite see it as inevitable though
Something like a nuclear war would qualify, although I wouldn’t call that a “guaranteed” outcome.
Sure it will. Economic fallout from no govt money being spent and also air travel being seriously curtailed due to ATC shortages will open things up really quick, relatively.
Something something The American Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I’ve just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.
If it messes with Congress’ flights or Thanksgiving plans they’ll open it back up right away. Same as the sequestration bullshit in 2012.
After the civil war.
What civil war? How would that work? Cities against rural? States against themselves? All cities are blue, all rural areas are red.
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I won’t be extorted into humane behavior
