Probably a bad idea that you purged everyone in law enforcement who was good at their job but not a chud.
Why find them when you can keep a boogie man in your back pocket for when times call for one?
instead of focusing on scrubbing the epstein files.
The culprit was found to be Luigi Mangione. When questioned in his holding cell whether he was in Utah at the time, police noted he became “very nervous, visibly shaking”. A manifesto was found in possession.
Case closed.
I heard they found the gun in Luigi’s backpack. He hasn’t touched the backpack in months, and he’s been locked up all this time, which only proves how diabolical he really is.
Considering they went after kirk instead of a bigger fish it’s probably somebody deeply personally offended by his minimization of school shootings. That should just narrow it down to all the people who survived a school shooting or lost somebody to one. That’s a short list right?
They found the shooter. Its the entirety of Chicago.
Might need to check out the people that were the victims of anti-LGBTQ+ violence in the last decade or so, should be a pretty short list still
Meaning they don’t think the person who shot him was black, trans or had mental health issues.
Well according to the community forum for my crazy neighborhood it’s definitely a minority trans person who did this.
Also all mass shootings were done by trans people. Not even joking.
Trans people are like sub 1% of the us population. These guys are busy.
I really don’t understand how you can actually believe something like that. Because of my wild 20’s i happen to know a lot of trans or gay or LGBTQ people in general, or more than the average person. If they were that violent, i would know so many murderers. In reality they are just the nicest people imaginable. I get that they obviously don’t know trans people, probably have never seen one, or if they did, they didn’t even know. But even that fact should make you wonder, no? I was at work and some random guy complained about how many jews live here and why that’s a problem, and i just thought that i don’t even know any jew. I worked for one once, and every now and then i see three or four walking around, but only recognise them because they are orthodox and dress like amish people. I actually had to look it up and in and around the next city, there are only 2000 jews, like what are you on about?
That’s funny because he was literally answering a question about trans mass shooters when his neck exploded.
WSJ is claiming that the rounds recovered from the weapon used had pro trans / “antifascist” things engraved on the bullets - make of that what you will. Generally WSJ’s reporting is factually accurate but incredibly biased, so there’s that? Fuckin’ hell though this is already such a fucking clusterfuck.
“Sources say” makes this highly dubious.
That’s completely standard in journalism - and the WSJ, despite being an aggressively horrible publication politically and morally, is quite respected for the strict veracity of it’s reporting. I don’t doubt they were told that, by a reputable source. I have no idea if it’s true beyond that however, since the trump admin isn’t exactly overflowing with decent quality human beings.
Absolutely. I am not doubting the WSJ’s reporting, but the “sources” part. The claim seems as convenient and absurd as a Deanna Raybourn novel.
Oh, then I quite apologize for misunderstanding & I totally agree.
quite respected for the strict veracity of it’s reporting.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/selina-cheng-wall-street-journal-1.7269561
Like I said, truly awful morally. Not about to argue against that. But your link doesn’t speak to their adherence to reporting strictly true (if heavily manipulated as to the apparent context and implications) information, which is all I’ve claimed. They fuckin’ suck, but they know that, and they delight in being able to pull a charlie kirk smug face and pull out the recipts when challenged on it.
but they were sources, and they said, and they only said it to the WSJ.
If that’s actually the case
then I think it’s just as likely
that this was done by fascists
to justify a “war” against “leftists”.
I can’t say I would be surprised for that to be the case.
I think it’s far more likely for it to have been one decent person who couldn’t take the constant hatred spewed by Kirk. Everyone knows this has been brewing, for it to finally pop on Mr 'Puts His Punchable Face Right Out There And Taunts You For Not Hitting Him" himself isn’t much of a surprise.
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Unfortunately, all of the competent people at the FBI left already.
Also, don’t forget that Trump very likely fucked a child and is covering it up. Release the Epstein tapes…
“a child”? Trump and Epstein were best friends for decades. Trump almost certainly fucked many multiple children.
Unfortunately
Debatable
Sarcasm…
Multiple children. Everyone is saying it.
All this & Trump F’d underage girls. Where is the rift?
My man Luigi should’ve waited a couple months for the new administration to come in before doing it. Would’ve 100% gotten away with it too.
Luigi is not guilty. He doesn’t have anything he needs to get away with.
Looking forward to a disproportionate amount of resources being dedicated to finding this guy’s killer because he was popular.
America is a joke and its working class is the punchline.
I don’t know if we can even argue that it’s disproportionate. Anywhere you go on the web, this is all anyone is talking about. It’s not media companies shoving the story down our throats - this is all the working class wants to be talking about right now. With this much public attention the response is going to be proportional to the amount of people who are paying attention to this topic.
I get that this person isn’t as important to care about compared to many many other people suffering and being killed around the world, but we can’t deny that a huge huge number of people are interested in engaging with this topic and some of them even want the shooter to be found.
Can’t they just pin it on Luigi?
They did exactly that to him before, why not again?
Just because he’s in custody?
Mollycoddles!Just waiting for them to find a backpack and a manifesto written with the left hand of a police officer.
Charlie Kirk. Kirk, 31, was the CEO…
He was only 31?
Geezus. Hate really does age you. I’m over 10 years his senior, and he looks 5 years older than me. And for once, this isn’t a humble-brag.
Right?! Like my life has been sex drugs rock and roll but i have aged way less brutally.
I’m older than Laura loomer, and I’m a very pale smoker who doesn’t wear sunscreen. She looks at least a decade older than I do.
Edit: I remembered her name!
: I remembered her name!
My condolences
its the mar-a-lago face: karoline, kimberly, Noem, the fox blondes
Same with Stephen Miller, he’s my age and we do not look like the same generation of human
Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller
funny thing hes ALSO JEWISH.
Lordy, this is good.
Public domain, spread it around.
Also, RFK, Jr = Great Value Mengele
great value mangled brain worms.
Well, you certainly aren’t the same species. He’s a subhuman troglodyte and you probably aren’t.
What an awful thing to say about troglodytes.
he one time dyed his scalp dark brown, to make him look like had a full head of hair.
I would not have guessed he was 5 years younger than me. He looked like late 40s. Geez.
Id say rough early 50s. I know guys in their 70s who kept their mullets and still look better than Kirk.
i think its wierd features on his face. all his features are like compressed into the middle of his head. and seems to show signs of FETAL alcohol too.
Well he just discovered how to stop aging … so he got you there homie
Pretty sure it was Kirk that got got
K.
In other news, Republicans blocked release of the Epstein files.
Where’s the Epstein files and why is trump and Republicans covering it up?
I think the shooter was good, but not a professional. They knew enough to sight in their scope accurately, but not enough to account for bullet drop. Nobody aims for the neck. Odds are he was aiming for the head. If you zero in your sight for 100 yards, the bullet can drop 3 or 4 inches once it gets to 200. And he seems to have disappeared without a trace, so he planned it well. I assume he cleaned up after himself. Odds are they’ll never find him.
Him? You mean they/them, right? Cause it was obviously a far-left transgender liberal progressive with blue hair. The whole GOP said so on Twitter. Surely they can’t be using this death to trigger more violence, can they?
Looks like a white male to me. Likely on the right side of the aisle judging by the attire. I think that whole thing about the bullets / guns having messages on them is grade a horse shit.
That’s some dude they found that looks kinda suspicious which is currently their best guess for who the shooter might be, not the confirmed THIS GUY IS THE SHOOTER guy
Yeah, a lot of people have been going on about “he must have had sniper training” and I’m like no man, 200 yards is a pretty normal shot for a hunter. Heck I’ve shot deer at 150 with iron sights.
I’m inclined to agree with you on the whole probably just a guy who went to the range that fell down a rabbit hole.
I saw someone saying he must have been a professional because he “hit a spot smaller than a quarter from 200 yards”… Like, my dude, you are assuming the goal was to hit that exact spot? Every bullet “hits a spot smaller than a quarter” from every range. I agree this wasn’t likely to be the first time this person held or shot a rifle, but he also doesn’t need to be Jason Bourne…
big difference from making that shot on a target field, and knowing you are going to kill someone, and have to get away with it. No amateur would have taken one single shot, see the Trump shooting.
It’s a bolt action, at a pretty typical hunting range (142 yds is the estimate).
Its not all that outrageous of a shot. A good shot, and a skilled one. But not at all unusually skilled.
It was a bolt action rifle, not an AR like was used in the Trump shooting, you aren’t going to fire 3 rounds before you know what the first one did. And you are assuming an average person in a mental state that both understands and cares about the sanctity of life.
and, why not? Oswald famously managed to fire three deadly accurate (magical, even) bullets from his Carcano 38 within mere 7 seconds.
Oswald was a marine.
His target was moving and he had a very limited line of site, and still managed to hit 2 out of 3 shots.
That kinda shit is what professional shooters can do.
This was 1 shot at a fairly standard range on a target literally sitting in a chair on a well lit stage. You don’t need to be a professional to make that shot. I’ve had friends on their first day shooting make shots like that with a decent rifle, some coaching, and about 10 rounds of practice at shorter ranges.
Even picked up the shell casing. And not bystanders casualities. Not a pro, but certainly not an amateur.
Where was this guy when Tronald Dump had his speech…
It was a bolt action rifle, was it not?
Well, it could’ve been, but it is really not that important. Worst case it takes aways from his professionality.
Pretty sure it was and I’m not sure how you can say that it’s unimportant when the point I was making was that he didn’t need to pick up his shell casing, as you suggested.
Bolt action ejects the casing as well, given you perform the bolt action. Not sure how confident they were the first shot will be enough, and time is everything so I assumed they performed the bolt action to prepare to finish the job if anything didn’t go according to plan.
He was wearing this which implies he’s a disabled vet.
Or was one of the few people who have that custom shirt. Whoops.
He should have played more video games to learn about bullet drop.
The shooter could have been aiming center mass, and aimed a bit high? Good thing, too, as Kirk was wearing body armor!
I do agree, not a pro. Just a decent shot with a typical hunting rifle.
Was he? It sure looked like his t shirt draped normally.
I assume they couldn’t see his head because being under the tent and shooting from a upward position so they shot what they could see
It was clearly suicide.
His neck just did that
The videos are all AI.
I guess the shooter is camping somewhere in the woods in the wider Utah forests area 🏕
- hard to find
- has thrown away the gun already
has thrown away the gun already
No way, I’m sure he’s kept the gun with him, along with a hard copy of his manifesto, just like Luigi did! It’s just what you do after you assassinate somebody.
/s
And the fake ID that was allegedly used to check into the hotel room and rent the e-bike or whatever it was.
Hey Fred, do we still have that manifesto and gun we used with Mangione? I think we’re gonna need it again.
Luigi Lawyer: Guess Luigi isn’t the killer since the same gun killed someone else while he was in custody!
Why would they need to do that? Just go to a gun show. Conduct a “private purchase” of a Mauser. Kill some vermin. Go back to live your life. The gun probably isn’t connected to that person in any traceable way.
AFAIK some signs of usage are on the gun and left on his hands from the pressure when firing shortly after the shot was fired? Also I thought every gun in the USA is labeled with a code to identify them? I thought because of this they could also sink the gun into some random river or water-body. I guess this would be hard to find.
They have serial numbers, but many states don’t require firearm registration or recording private sales. Back when I lived in the States, the state I lived in required an initial background check if purchasing from a retailer. After that, it could change hands five times with no records.
So basically you are saying Serial Numbers are useless to proof ownership?
Pretty much
If there was a national registry it would be great!
And the conspiracy theories are are already flowing. Apparently Kirk was convinced Israel was going to assassinate him so he had more security and wore body armor during public appearances recently. Another is that he pissed off the Nazi’s to the point they wanted him gone. Another is that it was a distraction op.
It’s been a fun read the last few hours. Like “Who Shot Mr. Burns?” so…it was probably a baby.
Trump sacrificing a pawn would not be that crazy.
The reason I don’t buy into this theory is cause Trump isn’t that smart.
Yeah, but the people controlling him, like some sort of geriatric meat marionette, are that smart. They are the ones putting the Executive Orders in front of this senile bag of burgers and controlling exactly what he says. The only time you get a glimpse behind the scenes is when he nervously flagilates on Live TV and doesn’t have a prompter to guide him along.
The other fascists propping him up are.
I’m not saying that it’s true, or even attempting to assert it.
We are however to the point where this isn’t that crazy of an idea, it’s not out of the realm that these fucks would do this in my mind.
No proof or evidence either.
I don’t buy it because it places trump as mastermind and not another pawn.
That implies he can play chess. I do see the logic, I could see someone wanting to sac a pawn. There are a lot of dumb theories about who could be playing Trump, like the Russians, or Thiel or whoever, so I don’t want to speculate who
yeah this wouldn’t surprise me at all especially now with the “FBI can’t find the shooter!” shit. My tinfoil hat says distraction op.
more like a bishop.
A Great Bishop! A LEGENDARY, even, Bishop. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
why would the Israelis want to kill him?
Because all conspiracy theories, after you strip away all the overly elaborate chains of communication, the gob smackingly large amount of people who would need to know and be completely silent, and overly complex reasons, always ends up back to the Jews.
He was claiming that Epstein was a Mossad agent & demanding that Trump release the Epstein files.
He’
swas Charlie Kirk…?
They don’t even know where the shot was fired from, apparently.
It’d be amazing if they literally never figure this one out. There’ll be conspiracy theories forever.
I dunno, for all the alt-right frothing, Charlie Kirk doesn’t seem like someone anyone will think about even a month from now, let alone set up a pin board for.
He deserved what he got, but if I was making a list of worthy targets I’d probably forget to add him.
He deserved what he got, but if I was making a list of worthy targets I’d probably forget to add him.
Brutal, hilarious and true.
Legit forgot he existed till I woke up from my nap this afternoon and the internet was on fire about the shooting and shortly there after his declaration of death.
Was a bit surprised a few discord servers I was on was trying to spin it like this was something the left always does and gets away with. When i asked for them to give a source to that they freaked out and tried to get a mod to ban me. Good times.
Yeah, there’s a rotating cast of grifters that are making the world worse but aren’t really individually important in the larger fascist project. And political shootings are almost entirely from the right. The last political shooting from the left I can think of is the congressional baseball shooting nearly a decade ago.
I got myself banned from a discord server for daring to refuse to express sympathy for his death and calling him a Neo-Nazi instead. One of the moderators is very conservative, unsurprisingly
Charlie Kirk doesn’t seem like someone anyone will think about even a month from now, let alone set up a pin board for.
He was a big mouthpiece for their propaganda. My coworkers yesterday were a surprising bunch, because apparently many of their families enjoyed listening to his “debates.”
Underestimating the influence of ‘influencers’ is part of what got us trump in the first place.
I don’t l ow much about the guy, but per AP News (de facto genocide deniers), Kirk was instrumental in vetting Trump loyalists.
Honestly I didn’t even know who he was, but clearly he was low hanging fruit with minimal security protection. The scariest thing about that video is thousands of young people at a “University” cheering on hate.
Id probably would’ve added him but as halftime entertainment. Id force him and Kent Hovind to duel to the death, winner gets fed to the wood chipper legs first.
Which is what makes him the perfect sacrificial lamb to justify a military crackdown on protests and such.
He also showed a little bit of rebellion on Epstein before snapping quickly back into approved messaging.
True. But what if there is a list, and whoever did it is just starting from the bottom?
Gotta level up before taking on the bigger bosses.
Are you kidding? The right will make him a martyr.
They made Babbit a matyr, and she rushed Capitol police during a violet mob attack on Congress, through a barricade, while cops shouted for her to stop. The cop that killed her fired a single, controlled shot. He was not firing wildly or with malice. She was ex military, and should have realized what guns drawn and warnings about deadly force meant. Bystanders next to her admitted to hearing the police warning her as she breached the barricades, but she did it anyway.
Her mother just got a 5 million dollar settlement from the government and she got a full military burial with honors.
They don’t need an actual reason for a martyr. They will invent reasons after the fact regardless of what happens.
IF we ever regain control, we should forcibly take back the money, and dump her body on their front lawn.
Those aren’t exclusionary, they’ll make both martyrs.
Trump admin won’t let this go to waste. They’ll find a suitable patsy, then justify taking guns away from everyone except card carrying nazis, I mean GOP members.
card carrying nazis, I mean GOP members.
Easy mistake to make.
We can just use the same language. “It was suicide, the gunshot video is AI”.
No kirk was a crisis actor.
Nah they’ll pass an assault weapon ban first, get the liberals to cheer it on. Some Democrats will start to lean Trump just to get guns taken away, then full gun control will be enacted.
Sounds totally plausible /s
My local news reported that a black clad figure was seen running across a rooftop immediately following the shooting so they’re trying to ID who it was. It’s the same rooftop where there have already been reports the shot likely came from. I forget the name of the building though.
There’s a video from before of someone being like “there’s a person up there, huh”
I guess they need the bullet to lodge in something solid to trace a path backwards.
I gotta imagine with all the videos it’s possible. They’d have a rough trajectory through the neck and video of exactly how he was sitting.
I’d be interested to know if they plan anything else.
