cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/52742400
How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
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It might be time to rename the Dems to the Controlled Opposition Party (COP). Seems like a nice counterbalance to the GOP.
All COPs are bastards!
Stop pretending these oligarch lackeys in public office are “caving” or “surrendering” or “giving in”.
They are doing what they are paid to do by their donors.
He wants to become the head coach of the Washington Generals.
Follow the money. Who owns him? Ask them about the why.
Money.
Just a reminder that this past election shows that people are absolutely fed the hell up with the current spinless democratic party. Donate to the progressives, never donate to the DNC and its ilk, and vote for them in the primaries to get these collaborators out of office. The change is happening but like the Beastie Boys say, it takes time to build.
Just hope that these collaborators don’t vote to remove the right to vote because I can see them doing this.
Voters are not fed up with them, they may removed about them at times like these but will defend them tooth and nail come election time. And anyone pointing out what they previously did are lashed out at and accused of trying to get the other team elected. Voters have the memory of dead goldfish
removed is fun, don’t kink shame
That wasn’t me, its a dumbass .world filter. I think I said disgruntled
No it’s Lemmy.ml filtering. That’s why I moved to db0.
I’ve had words filtered using . World too
What the actual fuck they have a word filter?
Oh yea, and it edits the original comment to look like that’s what was typed in.
Vote in/ allow to be voted in psychopants and weak willed and you get a crumbling society. It’s not complicated.
Weak leadership is why we are in this Trump era in the first place. Leadership comes from the Top down look at how Republicans emulate Trump.
And the Democratic party will only ever allow weak leadership. They complicit, and the sooner people realize it the sooner we can move on from this idiotic two party mentality.
There are good people who have good intentions who run as Democrats, no doubt, but they either get nowhere or they capitulate and give up too much in vain hopes of changing things from within, but the shackles never get loosened.
The Democratic party is in full swing whitewashing war criminals and normalizing boot licking and veteran warship in order to swing the Overton window to the center.
two party mentality.
The two parties are not a “mentality”. They’re an inescapable consequence of FPTP voting. If you pretend otherwise you will simply lose. And most likely get more fascists.
Stop repeating the propaganda of your two parties like it’s gospel, it only keeps them in power.
Both Canada and the United Kingdom use FPTP voting and they have more than two viable parties that regularly win and hold seats. You keep electing fascists-light because fascists-classic is too scary, but you’re still voting for fascists.
It was Biden who full throated support for fascist Israel’s genocide against the natives they colonize, it was Biden who allowed police to attack peaceful student protestors, it was Biden’s press secretary that had police drag reporters out for asking questions, and it was Biden who spread lies and his party that continues to dehumanize Palestinians.
It was Biden that renewed FISA, who signed a bill to block railroad strike, who bypassed Leahy law to transfer arms to Israel, who extended Trump’s Title 42, who started the TikTok divestment ban that lead to the purchase everyone is blaming Trump for now. It was under Biden than the US repeatedly vetoed a ceasefire in Gaza, the DHS waived 26 laws to build border wall segments in Texas, and the DOH prosecuted Assange.
You don’t fight fascism with fascism.
Both Canada and the United Kingdom use FPTP voting and they have more than two viable parties that regularly win and hold seats.
Sure, but they also have prime ministers and parliaments, and are generally run differently from the United States which has had two main parties since its inception because that is what the system will produce.
Forever relegating the party’s future is a silly move. There is no viable progressive party. It’s been a year since he was elected, there’s still no viable progressive party. The best we’ve done is some well organized protests, but it’s the information age, darlings, protests would have to grow to violent mobs before anything is achieved, and I don’t see that happening anywhere, even as fascism is abducting citizens off the streets, repelling into their apartments off helicopters.
We don’t have years for a party to come together, identify leaders, establish roots at all levels. We are under full attack, now. If we can’t get a single violent mob together, then the next best step is to metaphorically do it to the DNC so we can at least use its infrastructure and mechanisms to get a new movement going.
I would love to spend real, thoughtful time devising a new form for a new party, but I am not seeing how, beyond being really upset, people think that’s going to simultaneously happen while we get also get the 270 electoral votes behind a single person in just 3 short years, with enough of a charisma lead that the next Jan 6 doesn’t turn into a military coup.
Wonder if he’ll get “primaried”. Chuck’s definately lost touch with the democratic base. How he handled the NYC mayoral race demonstrated that.
My pet theory is that Schumer will agree to not run again, and AOC will take over his seat without primary opposition, as long as she promises to not run against Newsom for President.
I really want AOC as president, but it’s already fucking clear with the past 2 women nominees that the USA, despite claiming it is “progressive”, will not vote for a woman. Even a white woman couldn’t make it, what makes you think a brown one will again?
Only time I see it happening is if there is mass social upheaval, a desire for change like with Obama. Today, the propaganda machine has amplified and division is rooted deeply. We crossed the Rubicon as a nation.
Hillary had no likeability and Kamala had little time and was courting centrists.
I think AOC will make a perfect Presidential candidate, in 2040 or 2048 after a few terms in the Senate. She will still be “young” by Presidential standards. Maybe by then many of the misogynists will have died off.
Don’t get me wrong: she would make an extremely good candidate in 2028 too. But I don’t think she has a chance of winning in the current climate. Too many people won’t vote for a woman right now, but are self-aware enough to know they can’t admit it anymore, so will come up with bullshit reasons why they can’t do it.
If she is on my ballot she is getting my vote, full stop. But I want to keep her for NY for a while longer.
The main problem is that by then the character assassination will be complete. Right now it’s still just underway.
AOC will take over his seat without primary opposition
I have bad news for you about how the DNC operates
What do you mean? Making a backroom deal to get the Next One Up across the finish line is exactly how they operate
yeah but AOC is someone the public could get behind as a genuine crusader for the small fry.
DNC historically backstabs people like that the hardest, in order to push the totally-not-republican-in-everything-but-name candidate on America.
The DNC backstabs those folks if they run for President, but would have no problem backing a certain victory for a Senate seat.
They just backstabbed someone running for mayor…
Well, they tried to, but he won, and now they are all going to cozy up to him as long as he keeps winning
My fingers are crossed for a Walz/AOC ticket.
I wont vote for him again
… trying?
“Why does Schumer keep trying to cave?”
How will we ever find the answer to this complicated question? I mean, if you just assume that he’s compromised trash, and barely better than his GOP colleagues, then everything would be explained, but that obviously can’t be the solution.
barely better than his GOP colleagues
His GOP colleagues are trying to send anyone who’s Mexican to a prison camp and make it illegal to oppose them.
Schumer is a bunch of dog shit smirking in a suit all hunched over like Igor, but they’re not in the same ballpark in terms of the damage they’re doing.
“Schumer is a bunch of dog shit smirking in a suit all hunched over like Igor” does not sound like a defense.
Schumer is absolutely a problem to the Democratic party, but he’s not MAGA. I’m fairly confident he’d vote to impeach Trump, unlike the Republicans. So he doesn’t support Trump, and he doesn’t support his fascism (although he does support Netanyahu’s genocide, apparently), but he’s also not doing much to resist it either. He’s very much a status quo conservative. Trump is upsetting that status quo, by making it worse. We also want to upset it, but in the opposite direction.
Schumer finds himself stuck in the middle, trying to balance his allegiance to his corporate masters and Netanyahu with Trump’s fascism and the needs of the American people. It’s an awkward position to be in, but he chose it himself, and I don’t feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for the Democratic Party that’s constantly being held back by him.
“Schumer is a bunch of dog shit smirking in a suit all hunched over like Igor” does not sound like a defense.
I mean clearly it’s not lol. The other person is just suffering from Lemmy reading comprehension.
Schumer finds himself stuck in the middle, trying to balance his allegiance to his corporate masters and Netanyahu with Trump’s fascism and the needs of the American people.
You misspelled “trying to conceal his allegience to his corporate masters and Netanyahu and not bothering to put much effort into the ruse.”
I am 100% assuming that last night’s capitulation was engineered by Schumer with a handful of people designated who can afford to take the fall for it. If Schumer ever bothers to explain his feelings about ending the shutdown, I guarantee he will make some general noises but definitely he will not say anything that sounds like he thinks ending the shutdown without ACA funding was a bad thing.
This almost reads as if you are trying to defend Schumer.
He continues to let these atrocities to occur as long as his nest egg is safe.
This almost reads as if you are trying to defend Schumer.
I am not
He continues to let these atrocities to occur as long as his nest egg is safe.
Absolutely 100%. He basically doesn’t give a shit as long as he keeps getting a paycheck. Can we fuckin’ primary this guy? I would donate money to that.
This constant trying to compare the terrible leadership to the GOP only shows that you have zero understanding of how sinister and evil the GOP actually is.
Because that’s his nature, presumably
Because he’s a corrupt piece of shit, owned by the same moneyed interests that own the Republicans.
His imaginary Republican family told him so.
Because if they get rid of the filibuster he might have to start doing his job.
It’s Schumer, that’s what he does, that’s what he’s always done.
